The end?

zzzzz said:
All doom from the BBC

www.bbc.co.uk

Ukraine front could 'collapse' as Russia gains accelerate, experts warn

Moscow's forces have taken more ground since September than they did over the course of 2023, analysts say.
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The BBC coverage has been relentlessly negative. It's like there is a very deliberate bias, and it's been jarringly irritating from the start of the conflict.

It actually feels like the BBC coverage is being edited by the Russian media.

The ground being lost was (for the most part) predicted months ago as part of the elastic defence, grinding down Russian forces while limiting UKR losses, and falling back to more favourable defensive positions and stretching the supply lines of the RF front positions. All before the rains arrived.

Which,i think, is pretty much what has happened...

Obviously, I don't know much better than anyone else, but the BBC reporting has sounded off all along.
 
Hap said:
The BBC coverage has been relentlessly negative. It's like there is a very deliberate bias, and it's been jarringly irritating from the start of the conflict.

It actually feels like the BBC coverage is being edited by the Russian media.

The ground being lost was (for the most part) predicted months ago as part of the elastic defence, grinding down Russian forces while limiting UKR losses, and falling back to more favourable defensive positions and stretching the supply lines of the RF front positions. All before the rains arrived.

Which,i think, is pretty much what has happened...

Obviously, I don't know much better than anyone else, but the BBC reporting has sounded off all along.
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My thoughts exactly, those in the know (via Borolad) have said this was the expected outcome.

If Russia wants to expend huge resources for limited gain, whilst Ukraine protect their men, crack on!
 
Gave up on the BBC as an impartial source of news years ago...The Ukrainians are fighting a defensive war and inflicting big losses for small gains. I listen to Phillips O'Brien and he seems to have a very good angle on it.. His view is nothing much has changed in 6 months other than Russian losses and costs are increasingly unsustainable. He thinks this phase is a land grab before Trump gets in and Putin priority is to get UKR out of Kursk, so he dosent have to trade that salient for anything in Donbass in any talks.
 
Dirtyderekbracken said:
Gave up on the BBC as an impartial source of news years ago...The Ukrainians are fighting a defensive war and inflicting big losses for small gains. I listen to Phillips O'Brien and he seems to have a very good angle on it.. His view is nothing much has changed in 6 months other than Russian losses and costs are increasingly unsustainable. He thinks this phase is a land grab before Trump gets in and Putin priority is to get UKR out of Kursk, so he dosent have to trade that salient for anything in Donbass in any talks.
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I'm usually very pro-BBC (more so as a concept, rather than in its current form, these days tbh), but they've pulled on my very last nerve over their coverage of this.
 
Hap said:
The BBC coverage has been relentlessly negative. It's like there is a very deliberate bias, and it's been jarringly irritating from the start of the conflict.

It actually feels like the BBC coverage is being edited by the Russian media.

The ground being lost was (for the most part) predicted months ago as part of the elastic defence, grinding down Russian forces while limiting UKR losses, and falling back to more favourable defensive positions and stretching the supply lines of the RF front positions. All before the rains arrived.

Which,i think, is pretty much what has happened...

Obviously, I don't know much better than anyone else, but the BBC reporting has sounded off all along.
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So they are reporting 2 months after the fact, that Ukraine gave up a whole load of muddy fields in order to, as said above, fall back to better positions.. And, actually managing to ignore that Ukraine took far more ground in Kursk.

As most of you know, I've spent a fair bit of my working life at the BBC. I used to be proud of the BBC. It is a shell and a shambles now. Very little proper journalism.
 
In other news, one ofPutins homes hit by Storm Shadow
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MAKS 25 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social)

🚀💥 It seems that Ukraine hit Russian President's facility with an underground command post in Kursk region with Storm Shadow, - Defense Express ❗️Given the proximity of the sanatorium, it is very likely that it was used by the command of the Russian and North Korean troops in the Kursk region.
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Lazy journalism and far too political. Similarly to the fat and outdated CBC in 🇨🇦, IMO it has become time for ending tax payer outlays to the BBC leaving the business to the private sector to more fairly compete.
 
Ravs said:
Lazy journalism and far too political. Similarly to the fat and outdated CBC in 🇨🇦, IMO it has become time for ending tax payer outlays to the BBC leaving the business to the private sector to more fairly compete.
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I'd disagree, look at the rabid right wing - free - press, in UK & US, spouting their owners voice & that of their sponsors..

Public broadcaster - independent - of political & sponsor pressure is very much in the public interest, especially now AI & faked news is to become even more invasive..

BBC is far from perfect.. ( but the model isn't broken, BBC just needs to rediscover itself )
 
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borolad259 said:
In other news, one ofPutins homes hit by Storm Shadow
bsky.app

MAKS 25 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social)

🚀💥 It seems that Ukraine hit Russian President's facility with an underground command post in Kursk region with Storm Shadow, - Defense Express ❗️Given the proximity of the sanatorium, it is very likely that it was used by the command of the Russian and North Korean troops in the Kursk region.
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Good to see them being put to good use.

I was on the squadron/ combined air wing which first used them and did the same to Saddam in 2003 😆
 
Ravs said:
Lazy journalism and far too political. Similarly to the fat and outdated CBC in 🇨🇦, IMO it has become time for ending tax payer outlays to the BBC leaving the business to the private sector to more fairly compete.
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We need the polar opposite of that. We just need to free independent journalists from government influence.

I would love the BBC to be returned to what it was.

The last thing we need is corporate financed news, with political lobbying and financial interest modifying, sifting and selecting perspective of the days news. Elon Musk would be your editor, and in control of all of the spin.

Highway to 1984 and Doublethink.
 
The Tories hated the BBC and so they infiltrated it with nodding puppets to make sure it was less "anti Government". Yet this is exactly what a free press should do, hold the Government of the day to account, keep them honest. Well I think we all know now why honesty was anathema to the last Tory Government. Anyhoo, back to topic, hopefully the Ukrainian Forces can now use these weapons freely to get their country back. All of it.
 
Update on the Ship. Crew will be taken into custody and will be held in Sweden.
NB8 will respond "to deter any other such silliness".
China is really not amused at all ... stating (probably rightly) that they uphold all laws of the sea.

Womder if they'll jab Putin in the ass.
 
I'm quite surprised at the number of people cheering this on. I suspect they've spent too long playing video games or watching war films where nobody dies.

OK, I get the whole concept of Ukrainians fighting back in a war they're losing against an enemy that invaded them, but the rest of us are not Ukrainians (putting a flag in your Twitter bio doesn't make you Ukrainian). Things escalate. Russia are unlikely to say "well that showed us, we'd best de-escalate".

It's more likely they step things up, which really isn't good for the rest of us.
 
Must admit that am worried living 12 miles from Teesside will leave me exposed to a nuclear threat, my son is bricking it.
 
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