the_holgate_roof
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The thing is for those guys, there is only two routes out, 6 feet under or years behind bars, none of them escape unscathed.Manchester. Think the second kidnap was on Maine Road
The thing is for those guys, there is only two routes out, 6 feet under or years behind bars, none of them escape unscathed.Manchester. Think the second kidnap was on Maine Road
Absolutely. I work everyday with the police (i'm not a cop) and I see some of the awful stuff that contributers to creating these viscous people. Whether we like it or not the vast vast majority of these people are made and not born that way. You see in that programme that the main protagonist was offending from a very young age and had an incredibly violent step-father who was also the ring leader in the kidnaps.The thing is for those guys, there is only two routes out, 6 feet under or years behind bars, none of them escape unscathed.
Bizarely I felt a sense of catharsis knowing they were targeting other thugs rather than innocent folk on the streets but I' m not nieve enough to think they don;t have an impact on law abiding folk.I’ll be honest for some reason it made be double check I’d locked my house doors. Stupid I know but what chance would you have if a bunch of four fellas turn up with hammers knives and going’s intent on beating you or your family up. Terrifying
Like I say, I haven’t watched it yet but surely in that game, the higher you climb, the higher you are above the parapet, you can’t stop bullets.Bizarely I felt a sense of catharsis knowing they were targeting other thugs rather than innocent folk on the streets but I' m not nieve enough to think they don;t have an impact on law abiding folk.
Like I said earlier the main guy was a scary bloke. Very intimidating.
It's not just about the recent 12 years, many areas were dropped into austerity in the early 80s and haven't recovered.It's the old nature or nurture debate.
I actually think both are drivers, in greater or lesser degrees.
In an area that already suffers huge deprivation, after 12 years of austerity, its not a surprise that many local kids turn to crime as an easy path to making money.
The lad with the longest sentence is a case in point. The way he acted after arrest it didn't seem to be an issue for him. I think the police had identified him as the one pistol whipping the bloke. Subjecting a person to that was normal for him.Yes, they were not the blessed with high intelligence, but you would not ever want to cross their paths. Capable of commiting extreme violence with seemingly little conscience or remorse.
This is why no one should be hero worshipping the likes of Duffy.
Maine Road at night....not the most pleasant of away fixtures.Manchester. Think the second kidnap was on Maine Road
Play with fire, you get burnt.Bizarely I felt a sense of catharsis knowing they were targeting other thugs rather than innocent folk on the streets but I' m not nieve enough to think they don;t have an impact on law abiding folk.
Like I said earlier the main guy was a scary bloke. Very intimidating.
Is Kinahan the fella who is involved in Boxing - doesn’t he have links to Billy Joe Saunders and Tyson Fury. I think he was in the news recently?The Kinahan Cartel v Hutch gang war in Dublin has claimed about 20 lives so far. The vast majority of deaths being on the Hutch side as it is a gang v a cartel. At the start they made a pact that no innocent men, women, or children would be targeted. It is one thing to make those kind of plans but another to keep them. One notoriously inept hit man on the Kinahan side killed two innocent people by mistake. One was mistaken identity, the other caught in the crossfire. He ended up shooting himself in the face looking down the barrel of his gun in his car on the way to another hit. You couldnt make it up.
Yes. His father Christy Kinahan was an international drugs gang leader who went from Dublin to Spain. Now he and his two sons Daniel and Christopher are holed up in Dubai with about 12 other gang members. The Kinahan Cartel are international drug smugglers/dealers. It is said that he handed the control of the cartel to Daniel. The police say Daniel is trying to reinvent himself as a boxing advisor to Tyson Fury amongst others. He has not been charged with any offences, has no criminal record, but the Gardai (Police) in Ireland want to question him in relation to murders committed in Dublin by the so called Cartel. There's a number of books out on the Kinahan Cartel and quite a few documentaries on youtube. They operate a massive drugs and gun smuggling operation on a worldwide scale, and have made millions of pounds, hence now living in Dubai.Is Kinahan the fella who is involved in Boxing - doesn’t he have links to Billy Joe Saunders and Tyson Fury. I think he was in the news recently?