The Budget 2025
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SpineyNorman
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I agree, but I was responding to the "get rid of landlords" and theprisoners comment about how that would make millions of people homeless. Answer: the landlords would evict them and sell the houses.
I think we're on the same page.......... perhaps not the same paragraph though :cool:
Ha I did wonder.
JM14
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Yeah once you go beyond a stupid statement like make landlords illegal and delve into even 1% of the implications around something like that, you soon realise how much of a stupid statement it actually is, but even more concerning is how many are calling for it and actually think it’s a realistic proposition
Although this government quite clearly do despise anyone who works hard and has a bit of success, so I wouldn’t be shocked to see this at some stage
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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Why people go on about landlords is beyond me.
Ban air BnB. Encourage people to become landlords.
Build shitloads of social housing.
Double counsel tax for empty housing.
Shoot nimbys.
And if no one is prepared to do that then stop immigration and ban people from having kids.
It isn't landlords that are the problem. It's homeowners and it's inequality.
Nothing will happen as homeowners won't want the value of their property to crash. So we will see feeble bills dribbling through parliament while everyone's rent skyrockets, as more and more landlords selling up.
The only vague hope is that Raynor seems to understand that before doing anything, the stock of counsel housing needs to massively increase.
Glover_elbow
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If shes serious about the nhs she should return nursing degrees to bursaries instead of saddling them huge student debts. There will be huge shortages otherwise
Ingleby_Flash
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True, but where does the government funding come from. Everyone wants the government to fund more - NHS, education, local government, min wage etc. But no-one wants to pay for it.
It’s a tough one that because there are many genuine cases. I’ve tried to survive off it in the past and it’s really really hard as it’s nothing. Could force people on it into community projects after say 6 months to help them get into work again. It’s pointless the long term unemployed getting a minimum wage job as they’re worse off. All unemployed immigrants should be put into community projects to help integration and their ability to get jobs as they only end up doing gig economy jobs. Indigenous ling term unemployed should also be forced into community projects.
They are doing this in Social Work already, fast track qualification + bursary for those with an existing degree
That’s good to know. There’s so much work that the unemployed can do which would help communities and help them get back into employment
redcarbob
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BBC News - Budget 2024: Minimum wage to rise to £12.21 an hour next year - BBC News
Minimum wage to rise to £12.21 an hour next year
The National Living Wage will rise by 77p from £11.44 per hour for workers over the age of 21.www.bbc.co.uk
This paragraph struck a positive chord with me from that article. Credit where it’s due. Rome wasn’t built in a day!
“It comes after the government instructed the Low Pay Commission, which recommends minimum wage rates, to include the cost of living in its calculations.”
For free?
JM14
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Which essentially means they would be working for less than minimum wage, which would be illegal
It’s not free they would receive universal credit. Many people do volunteer work, community service etc.
They’re not being paid as employees. Lots of ppl take internships to help get work. I signed on for a decent period when I was young and it’s hard to get out of it as the job centre are useless and don’t really help you so you get stuck in a rut. It’s hard to then get back into employment. Getting ppl in the routine again and boosting their confidence will help to find them work whilst providing beneficial community work.
Colgates_shaving_foam
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Erm you literally just said it. Read it back. Volunteer work. Try peicing it together champ.
r00fie1
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Agree with all that.
Perhaps re-regulating all public bus services: bringing them back into public ownership and operated by local authorities - [like they are in Nottingham and Greater Manchester] gives local accountability and operating services according to need, not profit. If public transport is to be a positive benefit to the traveller / commuter / shopper, it has to be cheap, reliable, regular and with modern vehicles of the highest standards, using biofuel, not diesel.
National Express has to be renationalised, as services between major cities and urban areas have been cherry-picked because they make profits. Many areas, particularly rural counties like Norfolk, Suffolk, Devon, Cornwall, Northumberland, Lincolnshire, North and East Yorkshire and Cumbria are poorly served, apart from main arterial routes. The days when National Express had an extensive National network, directly serving towns such as Wells, Keswick, Coalville and Swaffham are no longer, without long waits and inconvenient connections.
You can't control what you don't own.
The same goes for the railways. If 10% of the subsidies spent on maintaining and building major road networks were spent on the railways, it would make a huge difference to service levels, reliability and quality of travel. Then again, that would only be possible, by renationalising the railways and running them for the public, not for profits and private shareholders.
JM14
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If you’re forced to partake in tasks in return for being paid JSA then yous are effectively an employee so should be paid fairly for this.
But I don’t doubt for a second it’s beneficial to anyone long term employed. It just can’t be forced on people.
Community work is great for everyone, but those participating have to do it because they want to and have a passion for whatever it is. Making people do it who don’t want to will never work