sherlock
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How are budgets increasing? Even if we take the headline figure of 1.5% increase in spending power, this is more than cancelled out by the 2% savings required of each department.
The Budget 2025
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clay
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Thank you. I can't believe they've published that, because it's utterly wrong. The 2% cuts to existing budgets has nothing to do with the billions "saved" from unbudgetted uncommitted spend, and yet they are conflating the two. Bonkers
Chancellor chooses a Budget to rebuild Britain
Today, Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves delivered a Budget to fix the foundations of our economy.www.gov.uk
"This government has been clear from the start it will not tolerate wasteful spending – and that means treating taxpayers’ money with respect. For the next financial year, all government departments have a 2% productivity, efficiency, and savings target, that is expected to save billions of pounds."
Zoophonic
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Severe cuts to public programmes which is how you define “austerity” in my book. Clearly your definition of austerity is merely cutting spending. Its meaningless headline rhetoric.
SCG
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Should get it all back as it was over an hour
mercury_redstone7
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I don't drink it ST, I put it on my fish n chips though.
Boro.Fur
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Right don't shoot the messenger but this was published in July/August. It talks about departments absorbing public sector pay pressure which will be helped by efficiency savings. It is not a budget cut.
And this is the settlement for the DHSC which shows the budget increasing by £12.2bn from 24/25 to 25/26. Other departments are the same/similar.
SmallTown
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The big champagne houses are buying up land in Kent because it’s now the best place to grow champagne grapes. Climate change for the win!
Cardiffdaffs
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Some British wines are excellent particularly whites.. The sparkling wines are world class. Nyetimber for example.
Billy Horner
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To be fair, the intricacies of public accounting can be difficult to get your head around, even if you’ve worked in the sector for decades. I haven’t had chance to look at the full Budget papers yet, but my guess would be that the headline spending figures for each department will indeed increase by 1.5% in real terms, but there will be assumptions baked into that figure. On the face of it, one assumption will be the level of departmental savings that can be found.
They will be dressed up as efficiency savings but, once they’re baked into the calculations, you have to find them even if those efficiencies don’t materialise/exist. Most people would simply subtract the savings figure from the spending power increase and look at the net overall impact, but that’s not how public accounting measures are presented.
I think the 2% figure probably is specific to the departmental admin budgets, but the bulk of the assumed savings would still need to be found. You’d need to examine the detail of the individual Departmental Expenditure Limits to see how that falls but, in the past, Health, Education and Defence have been protected meaning that all that burden falls on unprotected departments.
Boro.Fur
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starplayer
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Crossrail= £20 billion
HS2= £65 billion
Euston station £5 billion + whatever it takes to complete the job
Busfares remain at £1.75 for those in London
Teesside and the regions ???
No wonder they ditched the levelling up slogan.
People at the bottom on the minimum wage on teesside who have to go to work and home again on the bus face a £10/ week increase if working 5 days. Thats approximately 14hrs of their pay rise / week. Given that Teesside has one of the highest poverty wards in the country this will affect a lot of hard working people massively. Still, we have a couple of Bens’ blue buses to keep us going.
HS2= £65 billion
Euston station £5 billion + whatever it takes to complete the job
Busfares remain at £1.75 for those in London
Teesside and the regions ???
No wonder they ditched the levelling up slogan.
People at the bottom on the minimum wage on teesside who have to go to work and home again on the bus face a £10/ week increase if working 5 days. Thats approximately 14hrs of their pay rise / week. Given that Teesside has one of the highest poverty wards in the country this will affect a lot of hard working people massively. Still, we have a couple of Bens’ blue buses to keep us going.
mercury_redstone7
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Sorry Cardiff, I have no idea about wines at all, I always find it a bit strong in alcohol, and taste like the stem of a bunch of grapes.
I did know the British wines are available, the winos in the family or friends I know tend to like everything but. Snobbish I think, especially as they rarely drink the stuff. I only use vinegar tbh
asredastheycome
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No the vino rise as you call it was announced as clear as day.
1finny
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Hunters Hill (Oxford) is the new darling of UK sparkling.
La Manoir aux Quat’Saison used to give a ‘free’ bottle of the wonderful Ruinart Blanc de Blanc champagne to guests.
They have replaced it with HH Blanc de Blanc.
Ive not had a decent red from anywhere in UK and Ive only had ‘reasonable’ white.
UK Not worth the hassle outside sparkling for me
WoodallServices
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If they don’t have one they will just make it up anyway.
If you consider her saying " Alcohol duty rates on non-draught products will increase in line with RPI " as clear as day then I am glad I dont live where you live.
99.9% of the population will have no idea how much that is going to increase their Vino.
Most people wont even know what RPI is.
Ingleby_Flash
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Rubbish, it’s clear as day to me, I know my wine is non draught and you’d have to live in a cave to not know what RPI is and if you genuinely don’t then I’m guessing you don’t care about the price of wine anyway.
asredastheycome
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Could probably look it up like you did
