SmallTown
Well-known member
Both figures risingAs of 9am on 30 July, 303,181 people have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK (pillar 1 and 2, see descriptions below).
Positive cases (pillars 1 and 2) were 880.
120 deaths were reported.
Both figures risingAs of 9am on 30 July, 303,181 people have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK (pillar 1 and 2, see descriptions below).
Positive cases (pillars 1 and 2) were 880.
120 deaths were reported.
Yes. There will almost certainly have been deaths due to problems with lack of care. Whitty alluded to this two weeks after lockdown. How many? I don't know, but the majority of non-covid excess deaths were in the first five weeks of the rise in deaths. This will be partially due to people not presenting themselves to hospitals etc., but it was also when there was little testing, particularly in care homes. The restrictions in hospital access /procedures continued after that, but not with the same number of unattributale excess deaths, as you have pointed out over the last three weeks.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...0-extra-deaths-reduced-access-healthcare.html
Evidence coming that lack of access to care is causing 2,700 'excess' deaths a week.
I've been saying this for ages and have been given so much grief as a result can we now at least accept it's a possibility @bear66 and @Billy Horner ?
Is the "24.2% lower . . " right?Today's headline analysis:
• 880 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 846
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 2.2% to 752 per day, following 1.5% increase yesterday (and 14th increase in the past 15 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 12.7% higher than one week ago (from 12.2% higher yesterday) and 23.5% higher than two weeks ago (from 26.0% higher yesterday and 21.1% higher 7 days ago)
• 120 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, up from 38 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 0.7% to 63 per day, following 3.3% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 0.2% lower than one week ago (from 2.5% higher yesterday) and 24.2% lower than two weeks ago (from 13.9% lower yesterday and 14.6% lower 7 days ago)
Fairly consistent with last week.Both figures rising
Is the "24.2% lower . . " right?
Also
https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/20/coro...eaths-13014848/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Hope it was all worth it.
How many? I don't know, but the majority of non-covid excess deaths were in the first five weeks of the rise in deaths. This will be partially due to people not presenting themselves to hospitals etc., but it was also when there was little testing, particularly in care homes. The restrictions in hospital access /procedures continued after that, but not with the same number of unattributale excess deaths, as you have pointed out over the last three weeks.
Scotland, Northern Ireland (and many other countries) simply put a 28 day period between test and date of death and discounted any longer. Not perfect, but I don't understand why England couldn't do the same and revise the figures accordingly.My worry is that we would be tracking another 700-1000 deaths under excess deaths now if we had full access to care back.
I genuinely think we're at this point really over counting covid deaths and not putting enough focus on our care services to try and get back to normal.
The covid 'number' is thus acting as a distraction and in a loop you could start seeing excess deaths again but as a result of care access that may be incorrectly attributed to covid (if any of that ramble makes sense).
I want to stress again that for me I really don't want to downplay anything just that we have to look at the fact this may be happening to avoid catastrophe down the way.
Scotland, Northern Ireland (and many other countries) simply put a 28 day period between test and date of death and discounted any longer. Not perfect, but I don't understand why England couldn't do the same and revise the figures accordingly.
Every death reported daily is based on a positive test. These are the vast majority of all deaths:Again I'm not talking about reporting I'm talking about incorrect labelling at point of death.
We have so few deaths with positive test vs diagnosed and even those with positive test a substantial % will be a contributing factor not the actual cause.
It's going to cost so many more lives and livelihoods I'm just tired and gutted you can't see it.
70 of which either outside of English hospitals or backdated.As of 9am on 1 August, 303,952 people have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK (pillar 1 and 2, see descriptions below).
Positive cases (pillars 1 and 2) were 771 with 128 Pillar 1.
74 deaths were reported.