The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

Laughing said:
To be fair Alvez I did some crappy analysis of that some time ago. At the time I was interested in things like suicide to see if there was a surge in those kind of deaths, due perhaps to lockdown.

I could only conclude, as I recall, that covid deaths were being under reported.

I do, of course, accept that our reporting, whilst considered good by other nations, is actually pretty poor, and the rest of the world are just worse
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Laughing said:
Alvez, I didn't say any such thing. I said there were 2 interpretations. When I looked at a similar graph I drew some conclusions.
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Except you say it right there... In response to the graph I posted from the ONS. Which clearly shows over reporting
 
Alvez, I don't see why you are saying it clearly shows over-reporting. I am not suggesting it does or does not. I don't think it says anything about over-reporting. Please enlighten me, as I am clearly missing that.
 
Laughing said:
Alvez, I don't see why you are saying it clearly shows over-reporting. I am not suggesting it does or does not. I don't think it says anything about over-reporting. Please enlighten me, as I am clearly missing that.
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I'm saying you said it showed under reporting and I was asking how. I've stated up thread why I think it shows over reporting
 
Alvez_48 said:
I'm saying you said it showed under reporting and I was asking how. I've stated up thread why I think it shows over reporting
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I said I concluded the graph indicated under-reporting. It was prior to June, but not dissimilar to the chart you posted.

At the time, as I recall, I concluded there was under reporting because of a large number of excess deaths with no apparent reason for those excess deaths.

I would expect some deaths to increase, you are right, cancer and heart related conditions for example due to the fear of attending the hospital.

At the same time there would be a reduction in deaths from such things as road traffic accidents, other infectious disease, accidents in the work place, to name a few.

It was a conclusion I reached, the graph I looked at didn't draw any conclusions, it was just numbers, as is the chart you posted.
 
Laughing said:
I said I concluded the graph indicated under-reporting. It was prior to June, but not dissimilar to the chart you posted.

At the time, as I recall, I concluded there was under reporting because of a large number of excess deaths with no apparent reason for those excess deaths.

I would expect some deaths to increase, you are right, cancer and heart related conditions for example due to the fear of attending the hospital.

At the same time there would be a reduction in deaths from such things as road traffic accidents, other infectious disease, accidents in the work place, to name a few.

It was a conclusion I reached, the graph I looked at didn't draw any conclusions, it was just numbers, as is the chart you posted.
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No mine is a direct comparison between 'types of death' for the most common reason for the month of June for the past 5 years Vs this June.

You stated as shown above that it showed under reporting I was flabbergasted by such a claim you've since obfuscated. For instance road traffic accidents and workplace accidents aren't even on the graph good sir. I even conceded your second point, are you incapable of coming to some middle ground and accepting the possibility?
 
Alvez_48 said:
No mine is a direct comparison between 'types of death' for the most common reason for the month of June for the past 5 years Vs this June.

You stated as shown above that it showed under reporting I was flabbergasted by such a claim you've since obfuscated. For instance road traffic accidents and workplace accidents aren't even on the graph good sir. I even conceded your second point, are you incapable of coming to some middle ground and accepting the possibility?
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That is a giggle Alvez.
 
GazC_MFC said:
Do hospital suspect covid until patients are tested (I believe it’ll be this one)
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Give over man.

This is the smoking gun that all front line NHS workers & NHS Trusts are in cahoots with ‘Big Government, ‘Big Pharma’ & ‘Big Ron’ to make Covid (which is just like getting man flu not even real flu) seem more prevalent & deadly than it is, so that people will be scared enough to allow ‘Big Tech’ to inject chips into us … sorry vaccinate us… to harvest ‘Big Data’ for ‘Big Dom’.

Wake up sheeple.
 
GazC_MFC said:
The no context to the story.

Did she show a symptom?

Do hospital suspect covid until patients are tested (I believe it’ll be this one)
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Plus the fact that, whether or not a hospital suspects Covid and/or records that on a discharge sheet, not one of the official statistics makes any use of such data. The cases which are reported are purely those which have returned a positive test.
 
GazC_MFC said:
The no context to the story.

Did she show a symptom?

Do hospital suspect covid until patients are tested (I believe it’ll be this one)
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What I took from the picture was that she went to hospital with a dodgy leg and was diagnosed with suspected covid-19 as a cause??

Don't imagine it would be counted as a case without a test but does show that assumptions are happening.
 
bear66 said:
Everyone is a suspected Covid-19 case on admittance to hospital until a test confirms otherwise.
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Really?
Isn't that a bit mad?

"Yeah man has been shot in the head"
"Nah must be covid-19".

(That actually happened in Florida by the way).

Does what you are saying there then prove what we've been saying about figures been inflated especially if they aren't doing post mortems?
 
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