That is shocking - ref comments to wilder

Ye his expertise is probably invalid here, my mistake
I mean Steffen thought it was a foul and he’s an international goalkeeper that played for Man City, I think it’s absolute nonsense to think someone is right just because they played the game.

Have you not listened to Jamie Redknapp every week for years?
 
The thing that annoys me about football pundits and football fans is this demand that a ref should come out and explain his decisions in front of the press.

What they actually mean is that the ref should stand there while the pundits tear him to bits after they've had the benefit of 15 slow motion replays from different angles. Why should the ref have to explain anything, they give honest decisions and get some right and some wrong, what else do we expect them to say? Did Gary Neville or Carragher do an interview after every game to explain every missed pass?

Its the same yesterday, no doubt Wilder has gone into the refs room to demand an explanation with a load of expletives thrown in, what response does he expect?
The opinion is split on here despite people watching loads of replays and freeze frames. It looked like Steffen should have been stronger to me on the first viewing and that's what the ref felt, just move on. No number of replays will change the outcome.

Wilder should be looking at why we've been all over the place defensively rather than blaming the ref because I know which one was more to blame yesterday.
 
It's not wilder's standard behaviour, it was Warnocks. Every manager is allowed to complain at some point about refereeing. He won't allow the player to escape without any blame that's pretty clear. I'd expect Dijksteel to be benched and then Lenihan will have to fight to get back in both were poor. Jones will have had a strip torn off about going to grown he's done that in the last 2 games and given chances away. Stay on your feet, delay, deny, deflect.

You mean dropped, benched in an Americanism that's crept into the game :oops:
 
I mean Steffen thought it was a foul and he’s an international goalkeeper that played for Man City, I think it’s absolute nonsense to think someone is right just because they played the game.

Have you not listened to Jamie Redknapp every week for years?
He thought he was fouled because he screwed up and was looking for it.
 
That is exactly what he did.
Are you sure?

You are saying the referee went up to one of our coaches and said our keeper is too weak without any invitation to comment?

I thought Wilder said his coach asked about the decision and he was then given an explanation which he took umbrage with.

Strange that the coaches and players can say the ref made a mistake but the ref can’t say the player made a mistake. They’re all adults ffs.
 
I mean Steffen thought it was a foul and he’s an international goalkeeper that played for Man City, I think it’s absolute nonsense to think someone is right just because they played the game.

Have you not listened to Jamie Redknapp every week for years?
He’s paid to give opinion to cause debate and get people watching.

It’s the fact you totally dismissed an ex keeper who played for boro, who is likely to show bias towards boro, saying how it saying it.

Stefan is of course going to say it’s a foul
 
Sanchez in goal for Brighton was claiming for a foul today when Man U scored, when there was absolutely nothing in it.

Players that should do better often claim for fouls or offsides to try and force the referee to wrongly make a decision in their favour.
 
Does it help distract you from the limitations of our ‘manager’ though ? Hope so…..
What are these "limitations" you know so much about.
You have all the answers.
Nows your opportunity to share them with us.
Or are you really just a wind - up merchant.
Are you Neil Warnhock?
 
The thing that annoys me about football pundits and football fans is this demand that a ref should come out and explain his decisions in front of the press.

What they actually mean is that the ref should stand there while the pundits tear him to bits after they've had the benefit of 15 slow motion replays from different angles. Why should the ref have to explain anything, they give honest decisions and get some right and some wrong, what else do we expect them to say? Did Gary Neville or Carragher do an interview after every game to explain every missed pass?

Its the same yesterday, no doubt Wilder has gone into the refs room to demand an explanation with a load of expletives thrown in, what response does he expect?
The opinion is split on here despite people watching loads of replays and freeze frames. It looked like Steffen should have been stronger to me on the first viewing and that's what the ref felt, just move on. No number of replays will change the outcome.

Wilder should be looking at why we've been all over the place defensively rather than blaming the ref because I know which one was more to blame yesterday.
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What are these "limitations" you know so much about.
You have all the answers.
Nows your opportunity to share them with us.
Or are you really just a wind - up merchant.
Are you Neil Warnhock?j
 
When they call a foul & a miss, they are judging the quality of the play.
This is a complete non story.

Presumably, when asked why a foul was not given the referee offered his rationale and explained that the keeper needs to be stronger in such circumstances - seems reasonable to me.

Highlighting this seems like distraction from the performance.

We had enough of that with Warnock , though I think that Wilder will in general be a different proposition in this respect.
 
Obviously...
But IIRC the rule involves the referee assessing has the player attempted to play the ball to the 'best of their ability' & that the miss was not intentional.
Not really. The referee calls a miss if there was an easier option than the one attempted by the player. If a player is snookered, the easier escape may result in leaving the opponent a simple pot. The more difficult escape may leave the cue ball safer. It is very rarely a bone of contention, the player knows the risk and may even try it 2 or 3 times rather than leave the opponent 'in'.
 
Dermot Gallagher analysing Man Utd goal against Brighton (which was similar keeper comes out to punch, misses and claims a foul) said it’s not a foul, “I think the goalkeeper is not strong enough”. Interesting that he is using the same language, suggesting there is nothing unusual about refs taking this view.
 
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