Sunderland tickets

Zanzibobs said:
My eldest wanted to sit in the south the last time we played them and was crying her eyes out asking why they were shouting stuff and not just supporting their team. I keep being told they are nice fans but know a very good friend of the family who calls us ‘nappy rippers’. Started a new teaching role in a Sunderland supporting area so first day is game day. A new colleague took great pleasure telling me how he remembers coming down in white overalls and wore it through the match. Just horrible fans, the majority of them.
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My experience of Makems goes like this .
I married an East Durham lass and was welcomed into a Sunderland supporting family and found them to be the most wonderful people you would meet .
About 35 years ago around or just after the issues in Cleveland , myself , my young son about 11 at the time and my Sunderland supporting father in law , set off to a Boro away game possibly at Nottingham .
Makems were also on the road at the same time and we made a pit stop at Ferrybridge services to find a dozen coachloads of Makems in the car park , shops and toilets .
We ran a gauntlet of dogs abuse , shouting vile comments , spitting , swearing and threatening .
These were not the hooligan element .
These were older people , middle aged couples , kids , everyone there .
Since that day , although I love my in laws dearly , I regard Sunderland and their football club as a vile tribe of people .

Wife happily long since converted to Boro .
 
I think anything said by Boro fans came about as retaliation for the pedo chants - i don’t condone that, and any Boro fans caught doing it should also be thrown out, but you can see why some have resorted to going down to the level of the mackems, geordies and Leeds fans. My kids are adults now but there is no way I’d bring my kids to a football match and have to sit through that language being hurled at us for 90 minutes.
 
Caretaker1 said:
My experience of Makems goes like this .
I married an East Durham lass and was welcomed into a Sunderland supporting family and found them to be the most wonderful people you would meet .
About 35 years ago around or just after the issues in Cleveland , myself , my young son about 11 at the time and my Sunderland supporting father in law , set off to a Boro away game possibly at Nottingham .
Makems were also on the road at the same time and we made a pit stop at Ferrybridge services to find a dozen coachloads of Makems in the car park , shops and toilets .
We ran a gauntlet of dogs abuse , shouting vile comments , spitting , swearing and threatening .
These were not the hooligan element .
These were older people , middle aged couples , kids , everyone there .
Since that day , although I love my in laws dearly , I regard Sunderland and their football club as a vile tribe of people .

Wife happily long since converted to Boro .
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They’re an uneducated rabble, and it is most definitely the majority, not a minority who do this
 
I was disappointed that some of our fans were singing the Johnson/Cattermole songs last time we played them. I understand it's difficult to resist the urge to retaliate but we must remember that we will make them look even more pathetic by not retaliating. Rise above it and let them show themselves up for what they are.

If we sing vile songs back at them it just gives them ammunition to say "Your fans are just as bad".
 
Absolutely we have our fair share of mindless idiots as ‘fans’. You always hope that the good majority will educate them with their ways.
On top of what I said before, I also find them a bit too stinky, Sunderland fans always seem like they need a good wash.
Thinking about those people I know who join in, say those vile things and act the way they do from Sunderland, they have management jobs, teachers, civil servants, well educated people who you would think would and should know better.
 
parmoboy said:
I was disappointed that some of our fans were singing the Johnson/Cattermole songs last time we played them. I understand it's difficult to resist the urge to retaliate but we must remember that we will make them look even more pathetic by not retaliating. Rise above it and let them show themselves up for what they are.

If we sing vile songs back at them it just gives them ammunition to say "Your fans are just as bad".
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I saw a large majority of our supporters singing these songs and I was not happy. I would like to think we are better than that, even though I dislike Mackems more than Newcastle. I work in Easington and all in my work are Mackems but to be honest they are much more obsessed with Newcastle.
 
I think some of the Mackems were goading Boro fans with paedo chants - like if we verbally insult them it will create a physical reaction and make it look a bot cool and them a bit thick.

The Trophy Virgins banner Boro fans unveiled when we played Newcastle one year was doing the same but it was not vile.

The Smoggies thing was started by Geordies and Mackems in the early 1990s as an insult, but it back fired a bit on them when many Boro fans adopted it themselves.

Ref tickets - this surely will be a sell out for both supporters.
 
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They are all mouth, give it all weird chants inside., nowhere to be seen outside. Bit weird they draw attention to Adam Johnson but there you go. They arent quite as daft/soft as the geordies but pretty close, travel in good numbers but not your most passionate bunch.

This game is huge for them, but just a regular league game for us. If a team like them gets your pulse racing then you need help 😬
 
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I'm surprised to read that some are actually not going to go to the game because of what Sunderland's fans sing. That's crazy.

I too think it's pretty horrible, but I just ignore them and enjoy the game. I personally don't understand why what the opposition fans will shout would influence whether you'd actually go to the game or sit at home.
 
WilderBall said:
I personally don't understand why what the opposition fans will shout would influence whether you'd actually go to the game or sit at home.
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A variety of reasons. Some people may not want to expose their children to such vile chants. Others, when faced with such provocative chants may respond with violence and they might not want to put themselves in that position.
 
WilderBall said:
I'm surprised to read that some are actually not going to go to the game because of what Sunderland's fans sing. That's crazy.

I too think it's pretty horrible, but I just ignore them and enjoy the game. I personally don't understand why what the opposition fans will shout would influence whether you'd actually go to the game or sit at home.
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I'm with you on this. I've had the same problem at England games but I try to ignore them. You know they're always going to be there. We as Boro fans aren't angels either.

It wouldn't put me off. The price on the other hand.
 
Really don't enjoy the matches against them specifically because of the repugnant chants from their fans.

Which is funny because we tend to beat them, so you'd think I'd enjoy the win over a rival, but I'd sooner just not be playing them in the first place.
Was gutted when they got promoted.
 
Erimus74 said:
Might thoughts exactly funky
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It's about time this was stamped out, the episode they refer to is nearly 35 years ago and the majority singing or chanting such things won't have a clue about how it destroyed people's lives.
 
Related to a couple of Mackem supporters, don't judge me, who come from Stillington. Family weddings are a joy with the majority being Boro fans.
 
TeaCider said:
Really don't enjoy the matches against them specifically because of the repugnant chants from their fans.

Which is funny because we tend to beat them, so you'd think I'd enjoy the win over a rival, but I'd sooner just not be playing them in the first place.
Was gutted when they got promoted.
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I much prefer the big game, big attendance, big atmosphere occasions that they are than say, Rotherham at home when there's about 278 fans in the away end.

Do they shout horrible stuff? Yeh they do, as do Boro fans. Happens at football up and down the country every week.

Guess if it is too much for some though then yeh, staying away from it all together would be best.
 
Nosmo-King said:
Afternoon, Erimus, fully understand and share your sentiments- and it is a crying shame. I don’t know about you but you reach a certain age and you don’t want to be in such an environment.

Going to Reading on Saturday- no problems normally there. Surprised to get a ticket today to be honest!
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Imagine train strike has put a few off? Me and my son going (live in Oxfordshire so not too bad to drive) any idea how many we have sold?
 
joeydiaz said:
A variety of reasons. Some people may not want to expose their children to such vile chants. Others, when faced with such provocative chants may respond with violence and they might not want to put themselves in that position.
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This is what gets me when they say we try and create this forced rivalry and they can't understand why we hate them. If Fulham fans came here and sang those vile songs I'd equally hate them.

There's a thread on their board now where they're talking about the game and one poster commented saying that we're always well up for it on and off the pitch and maybe they should start treating the game with the same level of importance. Aye, cos you'd be forgiven for thinking it was a pre-season friendly game the way their fans have behaved in the past.
 
Otto42 said:
Imagine train strike has put a few off? Me and my son going (live in Oxfordshire so not too bad to drive) any idea how many we have sold?
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Don’t know how many we have sold, Otto. I was offered near the front or middle so presume it won’t be one of our biggest followings!
 
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