Steffen

Scrug said:
It doesn’t matter really, we’ve taken 3 from a possible 12 so far.
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Get that, but this thread is about Steffen, you can hardly blame him alone for us just taking 3 from 12, although you haven`t specifically blamed him

Once all the pieces of the puzzle are in place we`ll be alright and we`ll see the value in having Steffen
 
We've managed to find another spud. Dreadful parry across goal right to Baker for that sitter he missed at the end.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Wiped Gayle out? You mean, fouled him? And if he did ‘wipe him out’ and the referee gave a penalty then presumably you’d be happy with that?

FFS. It was a foul on Steffen. There’s no debate to be had about it.

But I would agree with those who don’t feel *that* confident in him yet. That one he pushed out into the box was stupid. Still early days of course but he does need to sharpen up a bit IMO.
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😂 clearly never played the game. Keeper should be skimping raising his knees and if Gayle decides to jump into him like that he comes of worse. He was fouled yes but he was still far to soft and it’s happens a few times with him. He has to be stronger and be more dominant in the air.
 
Very obvious foul on Steffen which the officials rightly disallowed. Great with his feet, which I guess is what Wilder wants in a sweeper keeper. Couldn’t do much with either goal. Decent keeper at Championship level.
 
I don't think he's an upgrade defensively. But I think his distribution will win us points on the counter. He almost played players in behind a few times in the second half.

I can see him losing us a lot of points this season unless we change the way we play to protect him, like we did with Dimi.
 
We are part of his education. He needs to learn how to deal with the physical stuff, you don't get that sort of stuff in the U23s and you probably don't get as much in the PL. I can see he will be a top keeper, the weaknesses he as (which I cannot argue with) he can improve as he learns. I think with a stable defence in front of him he would do better. I suspect by Christmas he will either have learned strategies to cope with the physical stuff or he will be watching from the sidelines. I think the former will happen.

Oh and to the doyle arguing that Gayle didn't foul, a question.

Really?
 
Muttley said:
We are part of his education. He needs to learn how to deal with the physical stuff, you don't get that sort of stuff in the U23s and you probably don't get as much in the PL. I can see he will be a top keeper, the weaknesses he as (which I cannot argue with) he can improve as he learns. I think with a stable defence in front of him he would do better. I suspect by Christmas he will either have learned strategies to cope with the physical stuff or he will be watching from the sidelines. I think the former will happen.

Oh and to the doyle arguing that Gayle didn't foul, a question.

Really?
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He hasn’t been playing under 23s football
 
It was 100% a foul on him for the disallowed goal, it's crazy for anyone to say otherwise, Gayle leapt in to him with his arms up and pushed Steffen's arms down.
The fact that Gayle didn't even put up a hint of a protest when the ref disallowed it says it all.

But he looks very shaky on crosses and isn't filling me with confidence right now.

His distribution is good and he's made some smart saves already, he needs to improve but he's still an upgrade on Lumley.
 
After a year with Lumley, we need stability and a keeper who the defence (and fans) can trust and from what i've seen so far, he isnt it.

Strapping big bloke to get 'fouled' by Gayle like that, not having it. His kicking distribution is excellent, best i've seen in years but he flaps at anything coming into the box, and parried for Lewis when they should have scored, and should've came for the cross for their equaliser. He's had a poor start and with a really good young goalkeeper on the bench i think it's time he got a chance in the league.

He nearly got lobbed from half way in his first two games aswell.
 
TeaCider said:
It was 100% a foul on him for the disallowed goal, it's crazy for anyone to say otherwise, Gayle leapt in to him with his arms up and pushed Steffen's arms down.
The fact that Gayle didn't even put up a hint of a protest when the ref disallowed it says it all.

But he looks very shaky on crosses and isn't filling me with confidence right now.

His distribution is good and he's made some smart saves already, he needs to improve but he's still an upgrade on Lumley.
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He also went over to check if he was ok, as he knew his arm had also hit him in the face.

It was a foul, and good on Gayle too.
 
We need another Dimi. How hard can it be to find a decent keeper somewhere in the English football pyramid?

I am not at all convinced by Steffan, but hopefully he comes good. Our whole defense look shaky.
 
VestasBoro said:
After a year with Lumley, we need stability and a keeper who the defence (and fans) can trust and from what i've seen so far, he isnt it.

Strapping big bloke to get 'fouled' by Gayle like that, not having it. His kicking distribution is excellent, best i've seen in years but he flaps at anything coming into the box, and parried for Lewis when they should have scored, and should've came for the cross for their equaliser. He's had a poor start and with a really good young goalkeeper on the bench i think it's time he got a chance in the league.

He nearly got lobbed from half way in his first two games aswell.
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More stability would be great but he's been stable enough, for this division, and hasn't really cost us much yet. If he was more stable he wouldn't be in this league. In fact he probably shouldn't bealready, as there are plenty of sides trying to play possession football with a keeper insistent on launching it (like how Ten Haag keeps shouting at De Gea, calling him a F***ing d*ck head for punting it).

We've gained a hell of a lot by him not costing us as many goals as the clowns last year, but where we've gained even more is that every time the ball goes back to him he doesn't punt it up field to their 6 foot 3 defenders, or straight out of play, which is a 60/70% expected possession loss.

To play and get the most out of possession football we need a guy who is really good with his feet at the back, and we don't have £30m to buy a keeper who is good with his feet and is pleasing on the eye.

We could get a steady Eddie, but we never managed to find one in the champo for years, and when we have tried that their kicking was poor, as well as was their possession, along with making mistakes.

I'll take a few heart-in-mouth moments, as with him in the side I'm banking on us having more of the ball, and not giving it away so easily, overall we will be better for it, and it lets us watch a pleasing style of play.

It's similar to why Fry isn't playing, he plays nice when it's easy but launches it any other time, it's not how we/ Wilder wants to play. The defending/ luck from the others will get better and Dael will probably learn to not launch it, we'll be good. It's also why Bola's in at LCB instead of McNair, Wilder wants to play out, not launch out (and give it away).
 
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