Sport on brink of financial collapse: Fears clubs and competitions could fold within weeks. Telegraph online.

[buffaloboro]

The PL could afford to bail out the lower leagues. It just means a return to the pre-PL arrangements.

Which will never happen. Naive to think the. PL actually cares about lower level teams. Just a mega business now.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

I know of many non league football clubs who have spent money on making grounds covid secure much like workplaces, some spending money they don't even have to make it happen.
Agreed sport has always been in precarious position but the example of non league football you are outside, easy to social distant etc.
I know may clubs have gone to ticket only to help with track and trace, all expense to the clubs and now again we have an inept government threatening the very existence of thousands of clubs around the country.

The premier league should be taking notice, you stop grassroots football where do they think they are going to get their superstars from in the future?

Non League football around here isn't having to splash out a great deal to meet the extra demands.

The problem for most is still getting enough local people to support them. I've been to half a dozen games so far, only two sold out their maximum of 300 tickets, both local derbies.

Funding the players, even at Northern League level, is where the main problem lies for most clubs.

 

[Anton_Berg]

I should have said 'it just needs the lower leagues to do what the PL six did in year zero'. They have less to lose now.

 

[NYboro]

The premier league should be taking notice, you stop grassroots football where do they think they are going to get their superstars from in the future?

The same way they do now. They'll buy them from elsewhere.

 

[r00fie1]

How many time has it been said ( you say basically this your self Roofie) that money is ruining football
Well , here's football with no money.!
At the end of this there will still be 22 blokes and a ball.
Reading this It would appear like Im trolling, I'm not . I'm asking why are you bothered about the " industry" of football.
Let the premiership float off. Return the reformed smaller clubs ( like us) to a game rather than a business. A game that earns enough to run the game rather than feed the billionairs.

Ask yourself where that money is concentrated.

 

[Randy]

We are all football fans and Boro fans. We have supported them all our lives. Many of us are old enough to remember 1986 and how we almost went to the wall. It is like a folktale now. It is so important to the fabric of so many peoples lives. It is what we talk about, we live, breath Boro and football, it carries our hopes and aspirations and dreams. It is why we are all on this forum.
It is vitally important to this online community and out in the real community too. Towns like Middlesbrough, areas like Teesside would become deserts without football.

Spot on Rob.

Sometimes we are all guilty of forgetting that football clubs and rugby clubs are the heartbeat of towns and villages across the country.

 

[r00fie1]

I know of many non league football clubs who have spent money on making grounds covid secure much like workplaces, some spending money they don't even have to make it happen.
Agreed sport has always been in precarious position but the example of non league football you are outside, easy to social distant etc.
I know may clubs have gone to ticket only to help with track and trace, all expense to the clubs and now again we have an inept government threatening the very existence of thousands of clubs around the country.

The premier league should be taking notice, you stop grassroots football where do they think they are going to get their superstars from in the future?

Randy - they dont give a flip.
The Premier League is a seperate Entitiy.
Its a company with its own "brand", marketing, logo`s, advertisers, TV and multi-media platform deals.

You`re asking the equivalent of The Rockafella Foundation to help save the local day centre for the elderly from closure.

They are culturally, corporately and socially, so distanced from our reallity, they wouldnt even connect or understand.
The Premier League is concerned how it enables advertisers across the globe to reach billions to tempt them to part with their money - via subscriptions, merchandising, etc.
Forget "drip down" and all that nonsense.
The rich are rich because the poor are poor.
They dont care what happems, only when it effects them!

 

[Randy]

Randy - they dont give a flip.
The Premier League is a seperate Entitiy.
Its a company with its own "brand", marketing, logo`s, advertisers, TV and multi-media platform deals.

You`re asking the equivalent of The Rockafella Foundation to help save the local day centre for the elderly from closure.

They are culturally, corporately and socially, so distanced from our reallity, they wouldnt even connect or understand.
The Premier League is concerned how it enables advertisers across the globe to reach billions to tempt them to part with their money - via subscriptions, merchandising, etc.
Forget "drip down" and all that nonsense.
The rich are rich because the poor are poor.
They dont care what happems, only when it effects them!

I know mate I know.

But footballers aren't grown in laboratories.

You stop kids football and we are at a very real risk of losing a talented generation of kids. Especially when you see how youth coaching has come on leaps and bounds in the past 10-15 years.

 

[r00fie1]

I know mate I know.

But footballers aren't grown in laboratories.

You stop kids football and we are at a very real risk of losing a talented generation of kids. Especially when you see how youth coaching has come on leaps and bounds in the past 10-15 years.

Morning Randy.
I wholeheartedly agree.
But we cant support the national game by selling off school playing fields, handing public spaces over to property developers, cut local council funding and expect an elite few firms to offer hand - outs like a Victorian philanthropist.
The football club ownership model has to change - just like the rest of us - we have to adapt?

 

[zzzzz]

It is vitally important to this online community and out in the real community too. Towns like Middlesbrough, areas like Teesside would become deserts without football.

Football is part of our cultural heritage. Historically important and pumps through the veins of many...... but not the majority.
To suggest that the area would be become a desert without it is frankly nonesensical. Just because the sport and the club are that important to you doesn't make it so for the majority.
People would find something else to spend their money on. They would find another passtime. Live would go on. It would be a tragedy for the few but not the many.

 

[r00fie1]

I know mate I know.

But footballers aren't grown in laboratories.

You stop kids football and we are at a very real risk of losing a talented generation of kids. Especially when you see how youth coaching has come on leaps and bounds in the past 10-15 years.

No one is stopping kids.
If you dont have the facilities, you dont get the product.
Its one thread in the fabric of life.

The main point is that sport [and football particularly] is on the point of collapse - that includes local youth teams and community organisations.
THAT is what is most important.

we appear to be going round in circles.

 

[Randy]

Morning Randy.
I wholeheartedly agree.
But we cant support the national game by selling off school playing fields, handing public spaces over to property developers, cut local council funding and expect an elite few firms to offer hand - outs like a Victorian philanthropist.
The football club ownership model has to change - just like the rest of us - we have to adapt?

Agreed again.

Sport should be classed as important as maths English and science in schools.

 

[rob_fmttm]

Football is part of our cultural heritage. Historically important and pumps through the veins of many...... but not the majority.
To suggest that the area would be become a desert without it is frankly nonesensical. Just because the sport and the club are that important to you doesn't make it so for the majority.
People would find something else to spend their money on. They would find another passtime. Live would go on. It would be a tragedy for the few but not the many.

Tell me this then, how many other activities have united the town and area for an open top bus tour bringing everyone out onto the streets? How many other funerals can you think of on Teesside like that of the still much-missed Alastair Brownlee that had the streets lined with people?
Football is a massive unifer still. And a key part of our identity here on Teesside. It really matters.

 

[Maccarone]

Football in synonymous to Middlesbrough, it's part of the cultural heritage of the town and the area.
Likewise for the whole of the North East.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

Which game are you going to this weekend?

There's a few teams around the area and some will have open turnstiles on Saturday afternoon. They are all in need of the local support you're talking about.

Or is it watching the Boro on TV again?

 

[r00fie1]

Just from my own perspective and I wasnt born in Teesside.
Middlesbrough = Boro = Middlesbrough = Boro.
Its been a formative part of my adult life and often the source of elation and joy - and depressive episodes, sadness and disappointment!
Hey ho. We go again.
As soon as you mention "Middlesbrough" - people have an idea of where it is or some sarci comment about the Boro.
Even rejection makes you feel proud!
Must be something that gets in the blood?

 

[the_holgate_roof]

Which will never happen. Naive to think the. PL actually cares about lower level teams. Just a mega business now.

But surely that’s where the whole thing will implode, once you cut the supply chain.

 

[NYboro]

Just from my own perspective and I wasnt born in Teesside.
Middlesbrough = Boro = Middlesbrough = Boro.
Its been a formative part of my adult life and often the source of elation and joy - and depressive episodes, sadness and disappointment!
Hey ho. We go again.
As soon as you mention "Middlesbrough" - people have an idea of where it is or some sarci comment about the Boro.
Even rejection makes you feel proud!
Must be something that gets in the blood?

I was born on Teesside (County Durham back then) and I've always followed the Boro, even when it was just getting the Green Final mailed to me so I could read the report. I've lived away for more than 40 years, but it's still home and I'm looking forward to coming back.

 

[Wiseman_Vaughn]

The money involved in football (EPL, EFL Big brand clubs like City, Utd, Chels etc) has ruined the game IMO. It made football a middle class sport that was out of reach for many people in its working class roots.

I know that in the past we have been a part of the merry-go-round and I absolutely loved the ride but give me Ayresome Park, reasonably priced tickets and a day out with your mates any day of the week over what we have now.

 

[the_holgate_roof]

The money involved in football (EPL, EFL Big brand clubs like City, Utd, Chels etc) has ruined the game IMO. It made football a middle class sport that was out of reach for many people in its working class roots.

I know that in the past we have been a part of the merry-go-round and I absolutely loved the ride but give me Ayresome Park, reasonably priced tickets and a day out with your mates any day of the week over what we have now.

Exactly this, would welcome those days back when your football appetite was satisfied with Match if the Day and Shoot, with a blast of punditry from Saint and Greavsie.....