Spain effectively bans any families with 12 to 16 y.o. from holidaying for whole of December

davidmills

davidmills

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New rules just brought in today.
All tourist over 12 must be double jabbed to enter Spain for whole of December.
But we only single jab 12 to 16 year olds so they will not be allowed to enter Spain.
Lots of Xmas holidays spoilt with this I would think.
 
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From Canarian Weekly

"According to the BOE, from Wednesday 1st December, Spain will only allow the entry of people from the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland with a vaccination certificate and not with negative diagnostic tests for covid or having overcome the disease, which was accepted up to now, until the end of the year, midnight on New Year's Eve.
This applies to anyone aged 12 or over, under 12's are exempt, so if you have young children and you are vaccinated, you are not affected. However, the age is specified as 12 because 12-19-year-olds in Spain can be vaccinated, but this is not the case in the UK as 12-15-year-olds can't, so if you have children in this age category you will not be able to bring them into Spain, including the Canary Islands."
 
Here is another article about it. Not clear to me. As you say, it looks like it might depend on the definition of "full vaccination".

english.elpais.com

Spain tightens travel restrictions amid concerns over omicron coronavirus variant

Visitors from the United Kingdom who are not EU residents will now only be able to enter the country if they are fully vaccinated, while those from ‘high-risk’ areas will need to provide a negative Covid test in addition to proof of vaccination
english.elpais.com english.elpais.com
 
Article from I newspaper

Spain announces children aged 12 and over must have both Covid vaccinations for holidays from December
New travel restrictions, announced by the Spanish government in response to the Omicron variant, mean that unvaccinated UK teens will no longer be able to enter the country from next week
Children aged 12 to 15 are to be banned from entering Spain from Wednesday 1 December unless they are fully vaccinated.
New travel restrictions, announced by the Spanish government on Monday in response to the new Omicron variant, mean that unvaccinated UK teens will no longer be able to enter the country from next week.
All travellers aged 12 and over must be fully vaccinated to enter Spain from 1 December onwards.
The new rules will throw holiday plans into disarray for thousands of families with teenage children hoping to visit the UK’s most popular holiday destination this winter.
Until now, children in the UK aged 12-to-15 could only receive a single jab and therefore were unable to be recognised as fully vaccinated.
The oversight already meant that UK teens found themselves banned from holidays to Germany, Canada and Malta, with Spain just the latest country to impose restrictions on the unlucky cohort.
However, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), announced this week that children aged 12 to 15 should get a second vaccine dose.
The announcement was made alongside the recommendation that the six-month gap before becoming eligible for a booster be reduced to three months because of the danger posed by Omicron.
What are Spain’s new travel rules?
The Spanish government requires all arrivals to Spain from the UK (excluding children under the age of 12 years old) to present proof of being fully vaccinated at least 14 days prior to arrival in Spain.
Spain will accept the UK’s Covid Pass in digital or paper form. Certificate of recovery from Covid is not permitted in lieu of vaccination.
All passengers (including children under 12 years old) arriving by air or sea must complete an online Health Control Form no more than 48 hours prior to travel.
Covid booster jabs to be offered to all adults after 3 months, and over 12s to receive second doses
Why are single vaccinations not accepted for travel?
Given that other nations offer two jabs to children aged 12 and over, it is not surprising that they would expect the same of visitors.
It has not yet been announced when second doses will be offered to teenagers to meet full vaccination status.
Why did the Government not offer second jabs to teenagers initially?
The UK’s chief medical officers (CMOs) said healthy children aged 12 to 15 should be offered one dose of a Covid vaccine in order to reduce any disruption to their education caused by Covid infections.
The recommendation that only one dose be given was related to the very rare risk of a condition called myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle.
It can cause chest pain and heart palpitations, but cases are usually mild and children recover quickly with standard treatment. The risk is tiny after one vaccine dose and slightly higher after two, with 12 to 34 cases seen for every one million second doses.
Most of the benefits from the vaccine, which reduce the small risk of Covid illness, are gained after one injection, the CMOs said.
But the JCVI has since said children aged 12 to 15 should get a second vaccine dose, having previously been offered just one, and that people who are seriously immunosuppressed and who have already had three doses of the jab will be offered a fourth dose as a booster.
It comes under efforts to try and reduce the risk of a wave of the Omicron variant hitting the UK.
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According to the Labour Party, the Government is already 15 weeks behind on their target for first vaccinations.
Almost 60 per cent of 12- to 15-year-olds have not had their first jab with new analysis showing many will not receive their first dose until February.
What other countries ban unvaccinated teenagers?
Germany and Malta both bar unvaccinated holidaymakers aged 12 and up. While Canada imposes strict a 14-day quarantine on unvaccinated 12s and over, as well as banning them from busy public areas or large events.
What else could the Government do to fix the problem?
At a news conference in October, Health Secretary Sajid Javid was questioned on the issue of travel restrictions for teenagers.
He said that the Government had plans for “some kind of proof of antibodies” that could be used in lieu of proof of vaccination for teenagers hoping to travel overseas.
However, Mr Javid added that it would ultimately “be up to the country” the child is travelling to to decide “whether they can accept that”.
Since then, the Government has gone quiet on the plan. i has approached the Department for Health and Social care for an update on the promised “antibody passport” .​
 
Regrettable but don't blame countries for wanting to protect the health of their own citizens from visitors from countries like UK with a much higher case rate and implementing fewer precautions
 
I travelled extensively this year and always had to prove my vaccination status as well as get tested-- if you want to go [literally] anywhere those are the new rules.
 
Yes but seems a bit unfair when our government wouldn’t give them a 2nd jab. Social media now full of families with 12 to 16 year olds having to cancel Xmas holidays, also not good for Spanish tourism sector and airlines. Surely they could have gone for single jabbed 12 to 16 year olds having PCR test before travel and day 2 return test. Then nobody would need to cancel.
Not talking about single jabbed over 16’s who have had every chance to be double jabbed.
 
davidmills said:
Yes but seems a bit unfair when our government wouldn’t give them a 2nd jab. Social media now full of families with 12 to 16 year olds having to cancel Xmas holidays, also not good for Spanish tourism sector and airlines. Surely they could have gone for single jabbed 12 to 16 year olds having PCR test before travel and day 2 return test. Then nobody would need to cancel.
Not talking about single jabbed over 16’s who have had every chance to be double jabbed.
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I'm not sure how fairness counts here? Why should Spain put itself at risk just because another country won't comply to it's rules? I don't get that
 
Spain want and need British tourists. They are allowing all who are double jabbed entry without a test, to block single jabbed 12 to 16 year olds at such short notice seems harsh when a simple PCR entry test would have confirmed they where clear to enter.
 
I understand this is disappointing for many, but I can't blame Spain for prioritising health over tourism. I think we'd do the same if roles were reversed?
Johnson rightly took plenty of flak for prioritising the economy over health in the early days of the pandemic. We surely can't expect Spain to do this when it's convenient for us?
 
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Frozen Horse said:
I understand this is disappointing for many, but I can't blame Spain for prioritising health over tourism. I think we'd do the same if roles were reversed?
Johnson rightly took plenty of flak for prioritising the economy over health in the early days of the pandemic. We surely can't expect Spain to do this when it's convenient for us?
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I genuinely think they do. It's really bizarre this sense of entitlement. This crazy belief that the world should bend to the tune of an isolated little northern European pariah state. It's bizarre
 
So why not ban all Brits then.
Which would you say is safer for Spain allowing all double jabbed WITHOUT a pcr entry test
or
allowing all double jabbed WITH a pcr entry test along with 12 to 16 yearr old single jabbed WITH a pcr entry test.
 
davidmills said:
So why not ban all Brits then.
Which would you say is safer for Spain allowing all double jabbed WITHOUT a pcr entry test
or
allowing all double jabbed WITH a pcr entry test along with 12 to 16 yearr old single jabbed WITH a pcr entry test.
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Why would you ban all Brits? If uour policy is only allowing double jabbed people in?

It's an odd way popping at the world this anglocentricity when you think about it? You seem to think Spain should be dictating a policy based on a single small nation on the same continent.
It seems really odd to me that so many people are reacting as if this is a Spain v Britain thing, when it's Spains policy to the other 190 countries in the world too
 
So who are more of a threat to Spain double jabbed WITHOUT a pcr entry test or 12 to 16 yearr old single jabbed WITH a pcr entry test
 
davidmills said:
So who are more of a threat to Spain double jabbed WITHOUT a pcr entry test or 12 to 16 yearr old single jabbed WITH a pcr entry test
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It's up to Spain to judge.

I'm just trying to get people away from this ridiculous anglocentirc thought is all. It's a foreign country imposing rules on all other foreign countries and some of you are acting like its England only
 
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