So have Wigan been officially deducted the 12 points !?!

They did so as far as I am concerned there is no question we will be relegated and more concerned now about how we can possibly rebuild the squad to ensure we don’t struggle next season.
They keep using phrases like force majure (sp?) - is that like the insurance cop out of 'Act of God?'
 
We have 5 weeks to sort the team out. We will need all those weeks to do so. If the EFL were arsing around with legal challenges they would be in chaos. They won’t risk that knowing Wigan wouldn’t have leg to stand on.
 
Wether or not it's a 12 or 15 point deduction, if 25% not paid off, will need to be decided pretty quick. That 3 point difference will most likely be the deciding factor in who goes down. How this pans out in the very short break before next season could cause chaos.
 
Wether or not it's a 12 or 15 point deduction, if 25% not paid off, will need to be decided pretty quick. That 3 point difference will most likely be the deciding factor in who goes down. How this pans out in the very short break before next season could cause chaos.

As I understand it, the 15 points deduction is a separate penalty, not an upgrade.
It will almost certainly be applied next season too, as it relates to potential new owners who aren't in place yet.
 
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One slight concern is that while the EFL have been quite clear in saying that the 12 points deduction is automatic and that the CoVid-19 situation is not an excuse, the EFL are not the ones hearing the appeal. It will be heard by an Independent Panel and there's no guarantee they will view things exactly the same way as the EFL.

I'm hopeful that they will, of course.
There is no guarantee, but they will work within the boundaries of the league, so that makes it pretty difficult to get out of
 
You have to hope the panel are not as inept as the 'fit & proper' board.. they really are incompetent..
fit and proper board has a very limited scope. It checked to see that the buying club had available funds. They proved they did, then those funds disappeared within 3 weeks. Seemed they lied to gain ownership of the club.
 
So you expect Charlton to win at Leeds?
I think he means we won't be relegated but we've a very difficult task to be ready for next season in Championship. I thought similar to you on first reading! Whoops,you were right! Come on Leeds!
 
I think he means we won't be relegated but we've a very difficult task to be ready for next season in Championship. I thought similar to you on first reading! Whoops,you were right! Come on Leeds!

Yes I now understand his response which was the complete opposite of what he thought I was saying.
 
I think we'll be OK but if the worst does actually happen & nothing happens to mentioned clubs then Steve Gibson will rightly stay quiet & do it his way, spend big, if we have the money & show the EFL & the FFP they are nothing more than just letters, that don't mean a jot
 
That doesn’t make sense. Wigan can’t now finish in the bottom 3 before penalty so the points will definitely be deducted this season. The only way they would have got the deduction next season would be if they hadn’t got enough points to survive.
Even though it is obvious now that they won’t finish in bottom 3, the EFL won’t apply the deduction until after the final game. This is because they apply the rule consistently every season and sometimes it might go to the last game so the rule has to be always apply it after the final games just in case. I think Bolton got it carried over as to apply it when you are already going down isn’t really a penalty at all so it rolls over to your next season
 
Remember going to 1st division Sheff Weds in a league cup reply with a patched up Boro team, when Lennie was in his final season, we got to FT level & marginally lost in ET, that fighting spirit will see us through on Wednesday 👍
 
Remember going to 1st division Sheff Weds in a league cup reply with a patched up Boro team, when Lennie was in his final season, we got to FT level & marginally lost in ET, that fighting spirit will see us through on Wednesday 👍
Remember going to that game, Lennie played Kav up front on his own because we were out of forwards. What we would give to have the spirit of Mustoe, Pollock and Kavanagh now.
 
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