Silence of The Rams

Surely it is in all of the creditors interests for a buyer to step in?
If they are liquidated then what assets do they own that could possibly be realised to clear debts?

One thing I wholeheartedly agree with though, is if a new buyer has a low-ball offer accepted to clear the HMRC, then this will set a very dangerous precedent indeed.

*Edited to correct auto-correct spelling. Ruining El Guapo’s retort. Sorry pal.
 
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Surely it is in all of the creditors interests for a buyer to step in?
If they are liquidated then what assets do they own that could possibly be realised to clear debts?

One thing I wholeheartedly agree with though, is if a new buyer has a low-ball offer accepted to clear the HMRC, then this will set a very dangerous president indeed.
Like Trump?
 
Surely it is in all of the creditors interests for a buyer to step in?
If they are liquidated then what assets do they own that could possibly be realised to clear debts?

One thing I wholeheartedly agree with though, is if a new buyer has a low-ball offer accepted to clear the HMRC, then this will set a very dangerous precedent indeed.

*Edited to correct auto-correct spelling. Ruining El Guapo’s retort. Sorry pal.
Perhaps the Administrators should have sold more players in January to raise some money to pay creditors. This would have also made paying the wage bill easier in the following months.
 

Why have Derby not just been thrown out of the League the same way other clubs were?
Becuase as of yet, their players have not been unpaid and the HMRC has not issued a winding up order.

There appears to be people/companies lurking in the shadows willing to fund the administration to further thier agendas, which, to answer a point earlier in the thread, I believe that's why the administrators chose not to have a fire sale and keep players like Tom lawrence
 
Becuase as of yet, their players have not been unpaid and the HMRC has not issued a winding up order.

There appears to be people/companies lurking in the shadows willing to fund the administration to further thier agendas, which, to answer a point earlier in the thread, I believe that's why the administrators chose not to have a fire sale and keep players like Tom lawrence
I think your assessment is correct MDP. They would have been gone months back if not for the artificial application of life support. Tick Tock Tick Tock …..
 
I would have thought someone like Mike Ashley would have bought them for £30m - if this was just a matter of buying the debts of the Club. A new owner could release a lot of players on free transfers, keeping the lower paid ones and bringing in some lower league and loan players. The Club will still get 18k crowds. I suspect it's the issues with the stadium and the training facilities that are not owned by Derby County FC that have complicated matters.
How on earth has their league table of blame (earlier in this thread) got Ashley as one of the top 10 people to blame. I wouldnt want Ashley to have anything to do with the Boro but if the choice is Ashley or no club then that is not really his fault!
 
Latest drivel from declining local rag...

Derby County takeover news LIVE: Binnie claims made, Appleby and Ashley latest

Latest Derby County takeover news from DerbyshireLive as situation shaken up following Kirchner withdrawal

The Rams are in administration
The Rams are in administration (Image: Getty Images)

Welcome to Thursday's Derby County takeover blog from DerbyshireLive, in which we will be bringing you all the latest news, updates and opinions throughout the day as time ticks down to get the Rams out of administration in time for the new season.

Former Derby chairman Andy Appleby has made his takeover bid official, while former Wolves chairman Steve Morgan is among several other parties interested in doing a deal. It is now a race between them all to get a deal done and rescue the club.

Chris Kirchner had been the club's preferred bidder since April, but his failure to produce the funds to complete a deal on time has brought new players to the table and prompted administrators Quantuma to issue statements as their role in selling the club is called into question.

Derby have been in administration since September after then-owner Mel Morris appointed business advisory firm Quantuma to oversee the club's affairs. With less than two months until the new season starts, manager Wayne Rooney needs clarity and the tools to be able to rebuild the Rams for life in League One. He has only five senior players under contract beyond the end of this summer and pre-season is due to start in two weeks' time.
 
Reading their forum today, their fans were talking about predicted budgets in league one etc. Such delusion!!!!! They are comparing themselves to the mackems and how they'll have far greater income from attedances, televised games etc. Now, I'm no mackem sycophant, however, they are miles bigger than Derby! Derby regularly struggled to break 20k in the championship, and in normal circumstances have poor away followings!
 
Whenever this thread rises back up the list I assume it because there has been a development.

The fixtures are released in one week and they are no further on than they were 3 months ago.

The EFL seem to be giving them more slack than Derek at a knocking shop, but it’s got to come a time when enough is enough?
 
They look to have no foundation to build on for the new season>>>>
Ryan Allsop has already cleared off to Cardiff City.
No over-inflated player-values there!
Who wants Morrison, Stearman, Davies, Richards and Forsyth?
Forest wanted Buchanan whilst Mel was fiddling the books [and no one was listening to Gibbo`s claims]
If he`s got a brain he will find another club. [Boro?].
Tom Lawrence might not find a club able to match his [reported] high salary - but they might include a "Free Bar" in his contract.
At least his old mate Richard Keogh has a year left on his contract at Blackpool(y)

If this basket case of corruption, con-men and comedians is still in existence, it may find clubs like Cheltenham, Burton,Charlton, Portsmouth and Accrington - wont be a pushover. Those clubs know what its like to battle in the 3rd Division. Being kicked all over the park on pitches you wouldnt grow spuds in on a cold wet Tuesday night will test the Derby kids remaining. Certainly, the old men wont want to get out of their carpet slippers. Rooney must have a death wish - perhaps he wants to go through all the leagues with Derby? Unfortunately for him - he wont be going to the Prem with them.


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Mike Ashley is taking Quantuma to court...

Ashley's lawyers alleged that Carl Jackson, one of the joint administrators, made representations that he knew were false during potential takeover talks.

Legal documents allege that Ashley's group, MASH, were told they were named as preferred bidders in January and it is claimed Jackson failed to inform the Football League, despite insisting he would.

It is also alleged that Jackson did this with the intention that MASH would continue to engage in the bidding process, incurring costs in doing so, and to submit a formal bid which would drive up the price for other bidders.

MASH are insisting this conduct amounts to deceit and they are seeking damages, with the claim filed at the High Court earlier this week.
Sounds like it is going to be messier still...
 
An opinion from their forum few minutes back :

I can't remember where I read it, but someone said that the HMRC deal is 25% now followed by another 25% over three years. I think (without checking) that the total is £36m, meaning we'd repay £9m upfront and another £9m over the next three years. No idea how true this is, but doesn't sound too far-fetched.

Blimey. Any financial experts on here tell whether this likely to be a runner for them??
 
An opinion from their forum few minutes back :

I can't remember where I read it, but someone said that the HMRC deal is 25% now followed by another 25% over three years. I think (without checking) that the total is £36m, meaning we'd repay £9m upfront and another £9m over the next three years. No idea how true this is, but doesn't sound too far-fetched.

Blimey. Any financial experts on here tell whether this likely to be a runner for them??
HMRC insisted we pay 100% or bye bye. Pretty sure they were nowhere near as flexible with Darlo/Bury/ Macclesfield either 🤔🤔

The special treatment Derby are getting is scandalous.
 
At last!
A sensible comment on the Derby Drivel telegraph Rams football page - from a "fan":

beaufort1


25 min ago

The £80 million valuation was based on the number of seats and the rebuild cost of a similar stadium.
It was always a convenient device for Morris to try and cover grossly excessive fair play losses and no one in his right mind would have ever paid that amount for it.
He created the losses and he was forced to effectively sell the stadium to himself to cover up his own incompetence.
If the club ceases to exist he is left with a lump of metal and concrete worth only the ground that it stands on.
He had to borrow money to keep the club solvent because he had let spending spiral out if control so why should supporters or potential buyers have the slightest bit of sympathy for him?
He was the architect of his own downfall, paying far too much for average players and changing managers at a whim.
The stadium is worth what people are prepared to pay and it’s clear that figure is around £20 million, no one expects him to give it away for nothing.
In addition if people like Ashley want to pay the creditors immediately the EFL requirement drops to 20%, not the 35% that the American fantasist wanted to pay in instalments.

[https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sp...y-takeover-mike-ashley-7218460?int_source=nba]




 
At last!
A sensible comment on the Derby Drivel telegraph Rams football page - from a "fan":

beaufort1


25 min ago

The £80 million valuation was based on the number of seats and the rebuild cost of a similar stadium.
It was always a convenient device for Morris to try and cover grossly excessive fair play losses and no one in his right mind would have ever paid that amount for it.
He created the losses and he was forced to effectively sell the stadium to himself to cover up his own incompetence.
If the club ceases to exist he is left with a lump of metal and concrete worth only the ground that it stands on.
He had to borrow money to keep the club solvent because he had let spending spiral out if control so why should supporters or potential buyers have the slightest bit of sympathy for him?
He was the architect of his own downfall, paying far too much for average players and changing managers at a whim.
The stadium is worth what people are prepared to pay and it’s clear that figure is around £20 million, no one expects him to give it away for nothing.
In addition if people like Ashley want to pay the creditors immediately the EFL requirement drops to 20%, not the 35% that the American fantasist wanted to pay in instalments.


[https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sp...y-takeover-mike-ashley-7218460?int_source=nba]
Not sure he's really a Derby fan, he's always the voice of reason amongst a load of 'everyone's fault but our own'. Often gets accused of being an "EFL stooge" for explaining why the EFL acted writing their rules rather than randomly punishing DCFC.
 
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