Caesium137
Well-known member
They've only got about 5!A new owner could release a lot of players on free transfers
They've only got about 5!A new owner could release a lot of players on free transfers
Like Trump?Surely it is in all of the creditors interests for a buyer to step in?
If they are liquidated then what assets do they own that could possibly be realised to clear debts?
One thing I wholeheartedly agree with though, is if a new buyer has a low-ball offer accepted to clear the HMRC, then this will set a very dangerous president indeed.
Perhaps the Administrators should have sold more players in January to raise some money to pay creditors. This would have also made paying the wage bill easier in the following months.Surely it is in all of the creditors interests for a buyer to step in?
If they are liquidated then what assets do they own that could possibly be realised to clear debts?
One thing I wholeheartedly agree with though, is if a new buyer has a low-ball offer accepted to clear the HMRC, then this will set a very dangerous precedent indeed.
*Edited to correct auto-correct spelling. Ruining El Guapo’s retort. Sorry pal.
Becuase as of yet, their players have not been unpaid and the HMRC has not issued a winding up order.Appleby leads consortium to take over Derby County
Ex-Derby County chairman Andy Appleby is leading a consortium that is bidding to take over the crisis-hit League One club.www.bbc.co.uk
Why have Derby not just been thrown out of the League the same way other clubs were?
I think your assessment is correct MDP. They would have been gone months back if not for the artificial application of life support. Tick Tock Tick Tock …..Becuase as of yet, their players have not been unpaid and the HMRC has not issued a winding up order.
There appears to be people/companies lurking in the shadows willing to fund the administration to further thier agendas, which, to answer a point earlier in the thread, I believe that's why the administrators chose not to have a fire sale and keep players like Tom lawrence
How on earth has their league table of blame (earlier in this thread) got Ashley as one of the top 10 people to blame. I wouldnt want Ashley to have anything to do with the Boro but if the choice is Ashley or no club then that is not really his fault!I would have thought someone like Mike Ashley would have bought them for £30m - if this was just a matter of buying the debts of the Club. A new owner could release a lot of players on free transfers, keeping the lower paid ones and bringing in some lower league and loan players. The Club will still get 18k crowds. I suspect it's the issues with the stadium and the training facilities that are not owned by Derby County FC that have complicated matters.
Sounds like it is going to be messier still...Ashley's lawyers alleged that Carl Jackson, one of the joint administrators, made representations that he knew were false during potential takeover talks.
Legal documents allege that Ashley's group, MASH, were told they were named as preferred bidders in January and it is claimed Jackson failed to inform the Football League, despite insisting he would.
It is also alleged that Jackson did this with the intention that MASH would continue to engage in the bidding process, incurring costs in doing so, and to submit a formal bid which would drive up the price for other bidders.
MASH are insisting this conduct amounts to deceit and they are seeking damages, with the claim filed at the High Court earlier this week.
HMRC insisted we pay 100% or bye bye. Pretty sure they were nowhere near as flexible with Darlo/Bury/ Macclesfield eitherAn opinion from their forum few minutes back :
I can't remember where I read it, but someone said that the HMRC deal is 25% now followed by another 25% over three years. I think (without checking) that the total is £36m, meaning we'd repay £9m upfront and another £9m over the next three years. No idea how true this is, but doesn't sound too far-fetched.
Blimey. Any financial experts on here tell whether this likely to be a runner for them??
There should be points deductions for any debt written of regardless if it's football debt or preferential debt. Allowing clubs to renege on debt is not good for footballHMRC insisted we pay 100% or bye bye. Pretty sure they were nowhere near as flexible with Darlo/Bury/ Macclesfield either
The special treatment Derby are getting is scandalous.
One point to the pound sounds fair enough to me..................There should be points deductions for any debt written of regardless if it's football debt or preferential debt. Allowing clubs to renege on debt is not good for football
Not sure he's really a Derby fan, he's always the voice of reason amongst a load of 'everyone's fault but our own'. Often gets accused of being an "EFL stooge" for explaining why the EFL acted writing their rules rather than randomly punishing DCFC.At last!
A sensible comment on the Derby Drivel telegraph Rams football page - from a "fan":
beaufort1
25 min ago
The £80 million valuation was based on the number of seats and the rebuild cost of a similar stadium.
It was always a convenient device for Morris to try and cover grossly excessive fair play losses and no one in his right mind would have ever paid that amount for it.
He created the losses and he was forced to effectively sell the stadium to himself to cover up his own incompetence.
If the club ceases to exist he is left with a lump of metal and concrete worth only the ground that it stands on.
He had to borrow money to keep the club solvent because he had let spending spiral out if control so why should supporters or potential buyers have the slightest bit of sympathy for him?
He was the architect of his own downfall, paying far too much for average players and changing managers at a whim.
The stadium is worth what people are prepared to pay and it’s clear that figure is around £20 million, no one expects him to give it away for nothing.
In addition if people like Ashley want to pay the creditors immediately the EFL requirement drops to 20%, not the 35% that the American fantasist wanted to pay in instalments.
[https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sp...y-takeover-mike-ashley-7218460?int_source=nba]