Shamima Begum

You are a very silly sausage. There are quite a few silly sausages on this really depressing thread.
Do all the silly sausages have a different viewpoint to your very tolerant, knowledgable and gracious self?

Thought so. It’s not personal by the way. I probably have had chat with you a match somewhere. It’s an open discussion.
 
Okay, but that's my not my question. I'll repeat my question again for you. Whose problem should a British citizen be?
I know mate. I dodged it.
I honestly don’t have the answer. I’m just glad she isn’t coming back
 
Do all the silly sausages have a different viewpoint to your very tolerant, knowledgable and gracious self?

Thought so. It’s not personal by the way. I probably have had chat with you a match somewhere. It’s an open discussion.
I didn't sign up for all of that 'tolerant left' and 'kinder gentler politics' stuff. I skipped that meeting. I did study logic and argument at university though. Nothing that you've said on here qualifies as a 'valid point'.
 
Someone else completely missing the point. It doesn't matter whether you have sympathy for her or not. She is our problem to deal with. She is a British citizen, born here and radicalised here.

We should deal with the problem.

You are all falling for a tory narrative designed to divide.

This is completely ignoring some of the vile comments which I find appalling.
I think you are missing the point - as mentioned there are a few.

point 1 :The bring her home she is our issue I’m in complete agreement with.

Point 2 - I’m surprised at the apparent sympathy because she was groomed. One I’m not sure I buy it - it was only brought up latterly as a strategy by her lawyers.

Point 3: if we agree she was groomed and therefore forgive her crimes then why don’t we forgive others of a younger age?
 
I didn't sign up for all of that 'tolerant left' and 'kinder gentler politics' stuff. I skipped that meeting. I did study logic and argument at university though. Nothing that you've said on here qualifies as a 'valid point'.
You missed the part where she left to join a terrorist organisation. She turned into an adult. She had an interview saying she knew they beheaded people and she was ok with that because of religion, she got denied return to uk, she changed her narrative and appearance to try and gain some support, the authorities decide it would be a risk for her to return, she can’t come back, I think they’ve made the correct decision because I agree it would compromise national security and I don’t believe her.
That’s pretty valid, even if you disagree with it
 
I know mate. I dodged it.
I honestly don’t have the answer. I’m just glad she isn’t coming back
There's no point debating with someone without the logic or rationale to do so. You obviously don't know what you're talking about, and the reason you're glad she's not coming back is obvious 👍
 
Facefuzz finishes his drink, puts on his jacket and leaves quietly. He heads back over to the football threads.
 
You missed the part where she left to join a terrorist organisation. She turned into an adult. She had an interview saying she knew they beheaded people and she was ok with that because of religion, she got denied return to uk, she changed her narrative and appearance to try and gain some support, the authorities decide it would be a risk for her to return, she can’t come back, I think they’ve made the correct decision because I agree it would compromise national security and I don’t believe her.
That’s pretty valid, even if you disagree with it
Past tense pal
 
I think you are missing the point - as mentioned there are a few.

point 1 :The bring her home she is our issue I’m in complete agreement with.

Point 2 - I’m surprised at the apparent sympathy because she was groomed. One I’m not sure I buy it - it was only brought up latterly as a strategy by her lawyers.

Point 3: if we agree she was groomed and therefore forgive her crimes then why don’t we forgive others of a younger age?
No one has said because she was groomed she should be forgiven. What has been said over and over is bring her home and apply our legal process. She is, after all our problem and deserves to be dealt with as any other British citizen, is a birthright that this government are choosing to ignore to start the very arguments that are happening here. Arguments which have no validity.

As I said you missed the point completely.
 
There's no point debating with someone without the logic or rationale to do so. You obviously don't know what you're talking about, and the reason you're glad she's not coming back is obvious 👍
As facefuzz leaves he just catches the tail end of what somebody says because of all of the noise.
He politely asks ‘why do you think it’s obvious that I’m glad she isn’t coming back because I don’t think you finished your sentence?’
 
I would like to know who is funding her legal team
I'd like to know why there have been (I think I'm right in saying) 450 repatriations to this country from Syria. Why is she different? Why is she "political"?

I don't get why a well known 23 year old would be a threat to our security and none of the others are?
 
I'd like to know why there have been (I think I'm right in saying) 450 repatriations to this country from Syria. Why is she different? Why is she "political"?

I don't get why a well known 23 year old would be a threat to our security and none of the others are?
Because the media decide.
It sells stories. It helps them that she is a woman and it raises interest.

It’s the same as Nicola bulley story. Half a dozen people go in the Tees each year. None on national media.
 
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