Seems some fans are turning on Warnock

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Would you be disappointed to see him change his mind and leave? Or would you secretly think it could be the right time. I like him and he’s done a good job overall here but I’m apprehensive about another season under him. It’s a tough one for me.
 
That’s a fair question . Naturally I like all others am disappointed at the way we just withered down to a pilot light this year , but he’s a very accomplished manager and I’m going to put my faith in his experience.
If he were sat with you he’d probably tell you things he’s already started and can’t tell the media as it’ll be giving things away . I’m expecting huge swathes of change probably right down to scouting etc .
Next season he will really be the ‘ boss ‘ as nearly all the deadwood will be gone and it will be his team , hence I’m going to stay optimistic . Finger on chin though 🤔
 
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I really don't know now. Before he came I didn't want him as manager, I just thought he was another Pulis (effective but with dreadful football) When he did arrive I changed my mind quite quickly (maybe helped by not having to go and watch 👀 ) and there was a point in the season he had us playing great and we looked liked a team who could do really well, maybe just needing a decent striker etc, I think at that point the majority of us were desperate for him to stay on. then we faded out of the playoff push and all the good aspects and motivation seemed to disappear from the team.

This has left me not knowing what I want.
 
He’s not untouchable. Some of the performances in the last few months have been truly terrible and the style of play horrid to watch. I’m more than happy to stick with him and Gibson will but if it starts badly next season then he’s under pressure. Also it did not help his bullsh1t press conference and the nonsense he was spouting. I’d rather he avoid comments like that and stay on football.
 
We’re clearly n a terrible state. The club needs a radical overhaul, on the football side, and his experience will be vital. Not going to be pretty football, his way, but I’m trusting he’ll turn us round. We have to be realistic. Promotion next season should be a Hope rather than an expectation
 
The final third of the season has been awful. I have posted this many times over the past few weeks but there are a couple of things that stand out for me, which make me doubtful about another season of Warnock.

One is the Blackburn game, Warnock actually mentioned that himself yesterday. "The Blackburn game killed us," he said. I agree with him but would absolutely love to know why that was. We should've had a penalty and played against 10 men, and we lost Fry for a handful of games after, but how can one moment like that change the course of an entire season? I always had the sense that we never really recovered from it and hearing Warnock reference that game yesterday was interesting. I do wonder what happened to us from then on because we were flying at that point. In fact we went to Forest in February and put in our best, most complete performance of the season so we were still capable of doing the business.

Second one is the absolutely mental decision to start wanging on about next season when there were still a dozen games to play in this one. I think we were 7th. "Next season we'll have a right good go, are you with me," may look like a great campaign to sell season tickets on paper - it is, to be fair - but how about we concentrate on the current season where, you know, we're 7th and in with a great shout of the play-offs having allowed you to add Bolasie, Fisher, Mendez-Laing and Kebano to your squad? I cannot get my head around such an experienced manager writing off a season that had been full of so much promise so early on. He must've realised what putting so much emphasis on the next campaign would look like. I think the team, on a subconscious level at least, were given an out by that. If the manager doesn't believe then why should they?

We have had some injuries too - our squad is not deep enough to cover the loss of Fry and Tav in particular but also Dijksteel and Morsy. Tav is absolute class, his importance cannot be understated IMO. It is imperative we add a similar player in the summer. And the striker situation is mental. We managed to finish 10th without one, essentially.

The end of this season just feels like such a shame. I was absolutely loving it for a while, I liked the way we were doing our stuff. We were drilled, nice and solid, had a style of play - it was effective football, quite direct of course but we played some effective stuff doing that and when Tav is in the middle of the field we play some good football - but it has ended quite badly. The football has been dreadful for weeks and Warnock's selections and public statements become more muddled and, at times, plain odd.

Obviously he will be in charge next season so if he can find better strikers than Akpom, add a good 'keeper and strengthen the middle of the field then we should be good for a play-off push. With Warnock's teams you never know, we might be 10th again or we might win the league. I suppose that's what you get from him and it will be interesting at least. If he can get us back to how we were for the first two thirds of this season I'll be happy, TBH.
 
I can certainly understand people’s concerns however I think the chances of us being able to go and get someone to come in this summer and out perform what Warnock is likely to do next year is very slim. A new manager would need time etc. We should stick with what we’ve got, especially as it’s only for 1 more year.

I’d be surprised if we don’t get play offs next season, should we have a really good summer then i think we could challenger for autos.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
The final third of the season has been awful. I have posted this many times over the past few weeks but there are a couple of things that stand out for me, which make me doubtful about another season of Warnock.

One is the Blackburn game, Warnock actually mentioned that himself yesterday. "The Blackburn game killed us," he said. I agree with him but would absolutely love to know why that was. We should've had a penalty and played against 10 men, and we lost Fry for a handful of games after, but how can one moment like that change the course of an entire season? I always had the sense that we never really recovered from it and hearing Warnock reference that game yesterday was interesting. I do wonder what happened to us from then on because we were flying at that point. In fact we went to Forest in February and put in our best, most complete performance of the season so we were still capable of doing the business.

Second one is the absolutely mental decision to start wanging on about next season when there were still a dozen games to play in this one. I think we were 7th. "Next season we'll have a right good go, are you with me," may look like a great campaign to sell season tickets on paper - it is, to be fair - but how about we concentrate on the current season where, you know, we're 7th and in with a great shout of the play-offs having allowed you to add Bolasie, Fisher, Mendez-Laing and Kebano to your squad? I cannot get my head around such an experienced manager writing off a season that had been full of so much promise so early on. He must've realised what putting so much emphasis on the next campaign would look like. I think the team, on a subconscious level at least, were given an out by that. If the manager doesn't believe then why should they?

We have had some injuries too - our squad is not deep enough to cover the loss of Fry and Tav in particular but also Dijksteel and Morsy. Tav is absolute class, his importance cannot be understated IMO. It is imperative we add a similar player in the summer. And the striker situation is mental. We managed to finish 10th without one, essentially.

The end of this season just feels like such a shame. I was absolutely loving it for a while, I liked the way we were doing our stuff. We were drilled, nice and solid, had a style of play - it was effective football, quite direct of course but we played some effective stuff doing that and when Tav is in the middle of the field we play some good football - but it has ended quite badly. The football has been dreadful for weeks and Warnock's selections and public statements become more muddled and, at times, plain odd.

Obviously he will be in charge next season so if he can find better strikers than Akpom, add a good 'keeper and strengthen the middle of the field then we should be good for a play-off push. With Warnock's teams you never know, we might be 10th again or we might win the league. I suppose that's what you get from him and it will be interesting at least. If he can get us back to how we were for the first two thirds of this season I'll be happy, TBH.
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Pretty much sums it up for me that Viv.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
The final third of the season has been awful. I have posted this many times over the past few weeks but there are a couple of things that stand out for me, which make me doubtful about another season of Warnock.

One is the Blackburn game, Warnock actually mentioned that himself yesterday. "The Blackburn game killed us," he said. I agree with him but would absolutely love to know why that was. We should've had a penalty and played against 10 men, and we lost Fry for a handful of games after, but how can one moment like that change the course of an entire season? I always had the sense that we never really recovered from it and hearing Warnock reference that game yesterday was interesting. I do wonder what happened to us from then on because we were flying at that point. In fact we went to Forest in February and put in our best, most complete performance of the season so we were still capable of doing the business.

Second one is the absolutely mental decision to start wanging on about next season when there were still a dozen games to play in this one. I think we were 7th. "Next season we'll have a right good go, are you with me," may look like a great campaign to sell season tickets on paper - it is, to be fair - but how about we concentrate on the current season where, you know, we're 7th and in with a great shout of the play-offs having allowed you to add Bolasie, Fisher, Mendez-Laing and Kebano to your squad? I cannot get my head around such an experienced manager writing off a season that had been full of so much promise so early on. He must've realised what putting so much emphasis on the next campaign would look like. I think the team, on a subconscious level at least, were given an out by that. If the manager doesn't believe then why should they?

We have had some injuries too - our squad is not deep enough to cover the loss of Fry and Tav in particular but also Dijksteel and Morsy. Tav is absolute class, his importance cannot be understated IMO. It is imperative we add a similar player in the summer. And the striker situation is mental. We managed to finish 10th without one, essentially.

The end of this season just feels like such a shame. I was absolutely loving it for a while, I liked the way we were doing our stuff. We were drilled, nice and solid, had a style of play - it was effective football, quite direct of course but we played some effective stuff doing that and when Tav is in the middle of the field we play some good football - but it has ended quite badly. The football has been dreadful for weeks and Warnock's selections and public statements become more muddled and, at times, plain odd.

Obviously he will be in charge next season so if he can find better strikers than Akpom, add a good 'keeper and strengthen the middle of the field then we should be good for a play-off push. With Warnock's teams you never know, we might be 10th again or we might win the league. I suppose that's what you get from him and it will be interesting at least. If he can get us back to how we were for the first two thirds of this season I'll be happy, TBH.
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Spot on for me too. I think the manager deserves our trust. He is very capable of moulding a side. All those people who are starting to want someone else, never suggest who it is they want. As Warnock himself said yesterday in relation to the Arsenal fans wanting Wenger out, be careful what you wish for.
 
He'll do the business. Put Fry, Tav and Dijksteel in that team and we push close if not into the top 6. Take Mowatt, Woodrow and Dike out of Barnsley and they fold, only Bournemouth, Norwich and Watford with the big squads would've been able to sustain the loss of key players.

I fancy us next season to start like a train.
 
Its ok.
Theres nothing left of the "Im it!" players - practically a whole team of high salaried players have departed in the last 12 months.
What we had left was a threadbare squad and the walking wounded.
We`ve come a long way to building the foundations.
We have a platform to build on.

No more old guard demanding big salaries:

Friend / Ayala / Clayton / Gestede / Fletcher / Britt / Shotton.....

In Neil we trust (y) UTMFlippinBoro!
 
Yesterday was bad, but we're not the only team to slip up to Wycombe lately.
They'd be 8 points above relegation if the season started at the halfway point.

I really enjoyed the first half of the season, and I think I'll enjoy next season too if we bring in a competent keeper and a striker that fits Warnock's style.
Add to that we'll hopefully have our best players back from injury. Tavernier, Fry and Dijksteel have each missed nearly a third of the season.
Browne has missed well over half, though he only played a handful of games he was good in each one.
 
Archiestephens_elbow said:
Better before the transfer window
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The decline started in December with the Boxing Day fixture being postponed.

We lost 4 out of the next 6 games before we'd signed a single outfield player.
5 out of 7 if you count the cup match.

I don't think it's a coincidence that we started to struggle when Fry and Dijksteel started to get injuries.
 
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two of the bottom 3 turned us over 3-0 at home. not happy with the way the playoff push just suddenly came to a finish like it did but you either need a team that can take 1 chance and be solid at the back (karanka) or a team that'll score 3,4,5 goals (Robson) every other week and weve looked like neither this season .. no leadership either we need a nigel pearson or a paul ince (or one of each) for when the going gets tough plus 2 decent 15+ goal a season strikers
 
Patched up side.
But weve been there before.
Not to worry.
Many rain showers and cups of T to go before the restart.
Might get rid of a few more too?
 
I’m not exactly sure what people expect? We’re not in a position to sign 7/8/9m £ players any more so on our budget the least risk and best chance of promotion is absolutely Warnock.

People turning on him want who exactly?
“Someone who plays good football and can bring in players on the cheap with big potential”

Bore off. Everyone wants that and gambles haven’t come off too many times for Boro. The only thing complaining will do is cause a toxic atmosphere when we are back in the riverside.

If we do well we could be premier league, if we don’t you’ll get your wish and it’ll be a fresh start. In the mean time instead of complaining before we’ve even seen where we are start of next season, maybe we could give what is happening a chance.
 
TeaCider said:
The decline started in December with the Boxing Day fixture being postponed.

We lost 4 out of the next 6 games before we'd signed a single outfield player.
5 out of 7 if you count the cup match.

I don't think it's a coincidence that we started to struggle when Fry and Dijksteel started to get injuries.
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Therein lies the problem. Our 3 best players all seem to be injury prone, we just can’t rely on them to play anything like a full season for us.
On paper the team looks ok, but that team is never on the pitch.
 
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