Season card sales suspended

I have not yet renewed due to covid. I have no intention of setting foot into our (or any other) stadium until a vaccine is provided, so I think it is a sensible decision from the club until they have decided what is what, whether it is first come first serve or a more pragmatic one that allows more to go such as on an every other game basis, etc.
 
Fair enough.
We've not renewed yet, which is a blow, but it was always going to happen at some point with the restrictions.
 
tonybiriyani said:
I think some are jumping the gun here in assuming that those who have already renewed will get first refusal on attending matches, I think it's just a case of waiting for definite guidelines from the efl before they sell more.
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I agree, there will be a few newbies but mostly renewals I would think, but the club have to be careful so as not to unduly upset some SC holders as they may find that they might not renew when it becomes possible through Government authorising it or a vaccine permits. Personally, so long as my benefits are retained when I eventually consider it safe, I will be more than happy, some however may not be and be lost as SC holders for the future.

To be fair to all, imho they need to survey supporters who have not yet renewed to see if they are happy to have a year suspended on their SC, like me, or whether they would like to attend on a planned social distancing basis. That way they know the numbers definitely wanting to attend based on the facts of what attending really means and can look to implement a balanced and fair approach to all SC holders
 
As Coluka has referred to, some just don't want to take the risk. I've renewed as I'm early 30s, fit and healthy and would like to think I would win the battle with the virus although I would rather not battle at all. My parents who are both in their late 60s who I normally attend the football with have also renewed but my mum has said she will not attend having had a heart attack in the past and certainly isn't fighting fit. As a result, she has already said my dad can't go just to ensure he doesn't bring anything back with him (even though he definitely would go should mum not be a consideration). It is certainly a tricky one to judge for those deemed to be more at risk or for those who live or want to visit those that are.

If I attend the football I certainly won't be popping round to see mum/dad as it just defeats the object of them not going. I would like to think that those who are planning on attending are planning on making the same sacrifices but I fear they may not.
 
Michael_Vronsky said:
Does this mean if you can't get in next season, you're not a real fan?!
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No it means you have taken a responsible approach to the safety of yourselves and others in awaiting to see the plan. If the club take a first come first served approach in the middle of a pandemic that stops some supporters attending whilst allowing others who may even have less points on their new scheme, then they may be cutting off future revenue streams. Fans who have paid and strongly feel first come first served over anything else are just taking a selfish approach to life. The I’m alright Jack approach never sits well and causes animosity rather than healing.
 
I go to every game and have had a season ticket for 20+ years but I held off renewing until I knew what was going to happen and now it looks like I will not get in. Angry now, but mainly with myself, I can understand why they have done this but I had not realised people were actually renewing. I would have been ok as I have had the virus as well - damn!
 
coluka said:
No it means you have taken a responsible approach to the safety of yourselves and others in awaiting to see the plan. If the club take a first come first served approach in the middle of a pandemic that stops some supporters attending whilst allowing others who may even have less points on their new scheme, then they may be cutting off future revenue streams. Fans who have paid and strongly feel first come first served over anything else are just taking a selfish approach to life. The I’m alright Jack approach never sits well and causes animosity rather than healing.
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Sorry. It was supposed to be a joke aimed at certain individual who does nothing but snipe if you don't go to games. I don't need a lecture by the way, but thanks all the same.
 
I renewed mine knowing that I probably couldn't go until a vaccine is found as Coluka has intimated. I did it as my annual personal financial contribution to the team I love. No regrets at all.
 
scuzzmonster said:
Gold card status shouldn't count for anything if they haven't renewed yet, though. Might sound harsh but you have to draw a line somewhere. As someone said earlier in the thread, 'You snooze, you lose.'
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I would have thought legally they would have to reopen the deadline, they had a renewal deadline then suspended sales early. I imagine there are thousands of ST holders who fully intend to renew once they have a deadline to pay by (me being one), if the club then start messing them about by moving the goalposts it has the potential to lose the club a lot of goodwill.

The only fair way is to reinstate the deadline for renewal get in all the cash from everyone who wanted to renew for next season, then have a ballot from all ST holders for each game so all ST holders who want to can see some live footy.

Edit: having read some of the above I agree they should also allow those who would attend but can't due to COVID reasons, be it them or family, to suspend their ST with the retention of privileges. Col's call for a large club survey on it to determine intentions is a good call, but time is tight and not everyone has 'opted in' for club contacts so it might prove a logistical nightmare.
 
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Cuthbert said:
Yeah. Like I said in the other thread, if it's reduced capacity, I guess those 6000 will now be the ones who get to go.

Will be tough on those who hadn't renewed yet, but who never miss a game.
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If that's the case and not, as an example, a ballot of Season Ticket holders I think you will see the parting of the way betw
 
Michael_Vronsky said:
Sorry. It was supposed to be a joke aimed at certain individual who does nothing but snipe if you don't go to games. I don't need a lecture by the way, but thanks all the same.
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I wasn’t lecturing you, merely offering my opinion about some of the more selfish approaches above. I’m quite happy to not attend for now.
 
theredrooster said:
I would have thought legally they would have to reopen the deadline, they had a renewal deadline then suspended sales early. I imagine there are thousands of ST holders who fully intend to renew once they have a deadline to pay by (me being one), if the club then start messing them about by moving the goalposts it has the potential to lose the club a lot of goodwill.
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Legally they can do whatever they want BUT I can't imagine they are intending to simply end the early bird offer here and now. As you say they would lose a lot of goodwill. So far the club have handled the situation well with refunds, discounts and free match streaming I don't think they'll blow it now. It's important to remember that those who haven't renewed, for reasons that the club will be aware of, are very much in the majority.

PS Are people aware that the overwhelming majority of gold card comments are very much tongue in cheek? Chill out.
 
theredrooster said:
I would have thought legally they would have to reopen the deadline, they had a renewal deadline then suspended sales early. I imagine there are thousands of ST holders who fully intend to renew once they have a deadline to pay by (me being one), if the club then start messing them about by moving the goalposts it has the potential to lose the club a lot of goodwill.

The only fair way is to reinstate the deadline for renewal get in all the cash from everyone who wanted to renew for next season, then have a ballot from all ST holders for each game so all ST holders who want to can see some live footy.

Edit: having read some of the above I agree they should also allow those who would attend but can't due to COVID reasons, be it them or family, to suspend their ST with the retention of privileges. Col's call for a large club survey on it to determine intentions is a good call, but time is tight and not everyone has 'opted in' for club contacts so it might prove a logistical nightmare.
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Given the difficulty of the situation i don't think it would be reasonable if the club "lose a lot of goodwill". Like many I've had no reason to renew as the deadline was cancelled/shifted so like you say it is harsh to lose out because of that. I'm not sure what they'll do, but people will be upset whatever route the club go down.
 
Sensible decision, can't keep selling tickets for a product you might not be able to deliver and is much easier than having to refund en mass at a future date. I wonder what effect this will have if and when we are able to return to normal, can see crowds generally going down and maybe the season ticket culture declining....maybe a bit of back to the future?
 
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