Sao Paulo F1 Grand Prix Weekend

Let them race. Don't punish them for clashes. Except when you do punish them for clashes of course. Dont let them race then. Right, I'm glad that has been sorted out and everyone now understands where the boundries are.

Now what about those dodgy rear wings. No, not the dodgy Mercedes rear wings that haven't beeen deemed dodgy. No I mean the Red Bull rear wings that keep getting worked on in Parc Ferme, that also havn't been deemed dodgy. Not yet anyway.

:p
 
Randy said:
Disqualify Max and Red Bull for the season. Would that make you happy? Or European Court of Arbitration? Run people off of the road? Yes I forgot that was the majority opinion of racers, pundits and public alike. Wait it isn't, it's split 50/50.
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No. As usual Randy you go for the over the top and frankly stupid response.

Why do you have to over react at everything? Man I'd hate to be around someone so reactive and highly strung.

What I would like to see, since you asked in your subtle and understated way, is a 5 point penalty, the same as every other driver gets for squeezing someone off track.
 
SmallTown said:
No. As usual Randy you go for the over the top and frankly stupid response.

Why do you have to over react at everything? Man I'd hate to be around someone so reactive and highly strung.

What I would like to see, since you asked in your subtle and understated way, is a 5 point penalty, the same as every other driver gets for squeezing someone off track.
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Good thing we'd never be around each other then isn't it ST? I usually avoid pretentious, judgemental, Tory voting, wind up merchants so it's rare our paths would ever cross. 😉

As Zorro said Lewis already won the race and Mercedes accumulated more constructors points than Red Bull. A win win weekend for Mercedes who will more than likely win in Abu Dhabi too.
 
SmallTown said:
No. As usual Randy you go for the over the top and frankly stupid response.

Why do you have to over react at everything? Man I'd hate to be around someone so reactive and highly strung.

What I would like to see, since you asked in your subtle and understated way, is a 5 point penalty, the same as every other driver gets for squeezing someone off track.
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5 Seconds you mean?

Argument is that by doing that after the rae, VErstappen had no chance to counteract such a penalty. If he knew he had a 5 second pen' then argueably he could have kept a bigger gap to Bottas.

Dont get me wrong, I think it was worthy of a penalty, and the stewards made a right mess of it and I dont think it can be easily put right after the event is over.
 
Randy said:
Can we all focus on what promises to be a great weekend of racing now? New track, new challenges.
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The thing is Randy, Horner basically said today that if Mercedes are quicker than Red Bull this weekend then they're going to protest. I mean, on what basis? He effectively called Wolff a liar in today's press conference. It's clear that if Max and/or Red Bull don't win their respective championships then this is going to court after the season end.
 
BoroFur said:
The thing is Randy, Horner basically said today that if Mercedes are quicker than Red Bull this weekend then they're going to protest. I mean, on what basis? He effectively called Wolff a liar in today's press conference. It's clear that if Max and/or Red Bull don't win their respective championships then this is going to court after the season end.
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Horner is an unlikeable person.
 
Caesium137 said:
Speculating Lewis has his old engine fitted to save the feisty one from Brazil for the last two with those being more 'power sensitive'..............
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Sorry to return to an old point. Dont necessarily believe everything that Karen Horner says. Speed traps from the race actually put a Honda engined car at the top of the speed traps.

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There may be arguments about the level or wing, which makes comparisons difficult but the Red Bull claims that Hamilton had a huge straight line speed advantage are not backed by the speed trap data.
 
JM14 said:
Something we can all agree on
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Not me (Horner being unlikeable). I like him and I'm a Merc/Hamilton fan. He's playing games just as much as Toto or anyone else would but he's always up for a chat and has a twinkle in his eye. Incredible from all the team leaders thinking about how much pressure they're constantly under.
These guys are winners and tw@tishness comes with that. It's just part of the game
 
Randy said:
Good thing we'd never be around each other then isn't it ST? I usually avoid pretentious, judgemental, Tory voting, wind up merchants so it's rare our paths would ever cross. 😉

As Zorro said Lewis already won the race and Mercedes accumulated more constructors points than Red Bull. A win win weekend for Mercedes who will more than likely win in Abu Dhabi too.
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And I avoid hysterical over reacting conspiracy theorists too. You obviously ignoring the fact a precedent has been set which is going to led to dangerous racing in the next 3 races. LeClerc has already admitted he’ll change his style now Max has got away with cheating
 
Steer said:
5 Seconds you mean?

Argument is that by doing that after the rae, VErstappen had no chance to counteract such a penalty. If he knew he had a 5 second pen' then argueably he could have kept a bigger gap to Bottas.

Dont get me wrong, I think it was worthy of a penalty, and the stewards made a right mess of it and I dont think it can be easily put right after the event is over.
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Sorry yes five seconds. It would just be right and fair given that’s what’s happened to everyone else who’s ran someone off the track
 
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