Rishi Sunak resignation apparently

bear66 said:
Apparently. Most of Europe's first wave came from an Austrian ski resort.

What surprises me most is how a choir practice, wedding, church service or funeral can lead to 60 to 80% of those attending getting infected by a superspreader.
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My sons college at uni saw one person giving out the gowns infect 150 people.
 
atypical_boro said:
What about when people can’t afford to live?
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I think we had the lockdown to try and get it under control. Then we relaxed things to try and stop the economy from imploding and Covid infection rates went back up. So we are back to a national lockdown to try and get it under control again.

The government are trying to find the balance, at the moment, they are getting it wrong because they aren't listening to Sage and went too far on the economic side.

Hopefully, we find the right balance.
 
BaronSmoggie said:
I think we had the lockdown to try and get it under control. Then we relaxed things to try and stop the economy from imploding and Covid infection rates went back up. So we are back to a national lockdown to try and get it under control again.

The government are trying to find the balance, at the moment, they are getting it wrong because they aren't listening to Sage and went too far on the economic side.

Hopefully, we find the right balance.
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Agree it’s about balance. But I was responding to the comment along the lines of “life is more important than money.” It’s not that simple and imho we shouldn’t try to reduce it to something so simple; because it goes without saying that life is more important than money. The problem is; people need a livelihood to live, by definition.
 
atypical_boro said:
Agree it’s about balance. But I was responding to the comment along the lines of “life is more important than money.” It’s not that simple and imho we shouldn’t try to reduce it to something so simple; because it goes without saying that life is more important than money. The problem is; people need a livelihood to live, by definition.
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I wasn't directly responding to your quote, just trying to give context in the overall discussion, but I agree with your sentiment, it isn't simple, which is why the balance isn't yet right, humans are a weird bunch, we don't all fit into the boxes the government would like to make this simple. Unless we agree go back to agrarian living and the barter system, livelihoods are going suffer no doubt and I think the one thing we all agree on is that the govt hasn't done enough and isn't listening to the right people with regard to the economy or health.
 
BaronSmoggie said:
I wasn't directly responding to your quote, just trying to give context in the overall discussion, but I agree with your sentiment, it isn't simple, which is why the balance isn't yet right, humans are a weird bunch, we don't all fit into the boxes the government would like to make this simple. Unless we agree go back to agrarian living and the barter system, livelihoods are going suffer no doubt and I think the one thing we all agree on is that the govt hasn't done enough and isn't listening to the right people with regard to the economy or health.
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Indeed not. But should we be surprised? They’re largely a bunch of uni pals who are here to get the UK out of Europe. This wasn’t on their roadmap at all, and as soon as Brexit is done, I fully expect the most prominent ones to clear off out of the firing line and leave it to some other mug.
 
atypical_boro said:
Indeed not. But should we be surprised? They’re largely a bunch of uni pals who are here to get the UK out of Europe. This wasn’t on their roadmap at all, and as soon as Brexit is done, I fully expect the most prominent ones to clear off out of the firing line and leave it to some other mug.
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Indeed but they will be fine. Their hedge fund investments will have done very well out of the Brexit haetus in the stock markets.
 
RandySavage said:
In hindsight it wasn't smart? Do you have any idea how many people would currently be on the dole if it never happened? 🤔

You are looking at millions.
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That's why we need to have a good look at how the economy was redirected in the Thatcher period and start to put it right.

We're actually becoming a nation of shopkeepers. Too heavily relying on non essential industry and imports.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
It’s like saying some random market in some random place in China has infected the whole world.
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China is one level but there is nothing random about a scientific report by Dr Emma Hodcroft, an evolutionary geneticist from the University of Basel, concerning the 2OA.EU1 variant of the virus. Track and trace is the only level we can work at on a day to day basis, but understanding how mink farms in Spain, Holland and the USA are instrumental in community transmission far beyond their region is important. As is understanding how international borders are breached by such outbreaks and how policy should change to manage it.

Another level is to understand what makes a superspreader. It is presumably more than individual viral load that is causing these events.
 
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