Redcar on lock-down?

[ThePrisoner]

Was there this morning. Practically deserted. Half the shops shut or boarded up. A few people riding their electric carts about and a couple toking on ciggies outside Wetherspoons. No hand sanitiizer for love or money.

:sneaky:

 

[Borotommo]

No different to anywhere. Still love Redcar, me

 

[Funky_Chicken]

The last time I was in Redcar a few weeks back I was quite shocked at how deserted and run down it looked - depressing what’s happened to that area

 

[parmoboy]

Having a day out in Redcar was one of the highlights of our summer holidays as kids.

Dinner in McDonald's, shopping in Woolworths, bit of time in the arcades, ice cream from Pacittos and finishing off the day on the beach.

Such a shame they wasted all that money on the vertical pier.

 

[go-nads!]

It’s the same everywhere, millions and millions spent on Stockton High Street and arguably that is worst. Take m and s, Debenhams and Binns out of Boro (which could easily happen) and Middlesbrough would be in a perilous state.

High rates, the out of town parks and internet has done for the high street. It is up to Local Authorities and chains to react and plan. As it is only Stockton seems to be looking to remodel the town centre - who knows if it will be a master stroke or a disaster.

 

[ThePrisoner]

Aye Redcar is depressing. Whoever pushed the verticla pier through should be hanged from a yard arm at the top. Harsh but fair. A modern horizontal pier could have been great.

Only newly opened business place I saw was the office of the new MP.

 

[HolgateCorner]

Conservative heartland now.

 

[ThatFragranceGuy]

Aye Redcar is depressing. Whoever pushed the verticla pier through should be hanged from a yard arm at the top. Harsh but fair. A modern horizontal pier could have been great.

Only newly opened business place I saw was the office of the new MP.

"Businesses including a bar and restaurant and community radio station Zetland FM are housed in the premises.
Zetland FM presenter Julie Donaldson said: "A lot of people like to come and they like to wave at us through the window which is nice - sometimes you feel like an animal at the zoo, but that's lovely and it allows us to connect with our audience.
"Whenever I have guests, everybody looks out the window and says 'you must have the best view of any radio station'.""

Could be out of date as from 2019.


It was said at the time that a traditional pier would cost between £5-8m. The vertical pier was £1.6m and 750k of that was provided in funding

 

[ThePrisoner]

"Businesses including a bar and restaurant and community radio station Zetland FM are housed in the premises.
Zetland FM presenter Julie Donaldson said: "A lot of people like to come and they like to wave at us through the window which is nice - sometimes you feel like an animal at the zoo, but that's lovely and it allows us to connect with our audience.
"Whenever I have guests, everybody looks out the window and says 'you must have the best view of any radio station'.""

Could be out of date as from 2019.


It was said at the time that a traditional pier would cost between £5-8m. The vertical pier was £1.6m and 750k of that was provided in funding

The vertical pier has struggled to get occupants and visitors. It was a mistake.

A proper pier could have been a real attraction.

 

[TeaCider]

The Beacon Lounge is at the bottom of the vertical pier now, it's good in there.

A proper pier would been pointless, it's not the 19th century and Saltburn is 10-15 minutes away by transport, and has its own very nice pier.
Teesside struggles enough as it is, we don't need two neighbouring towns competing with the same attraction.

 

[Cooper6711]

Exactly what I have said all along I’ll always defend redcar born and bred there. You can’t build a new pier and then class it as traditional. Piers are a throw back to a different age and saltburn has one. There was no point at all in competing with Saltburn with a new pier

 

[asredastheycome]

Instead we have an attraction that nobody except the council wanted.

 

[WoodallServices]

My mother said the Vertical Pier was built as they had to make an attraction as part of the deal for the EU grant to renovate the promenade.

 

[ThatFragranceGuy]

The vertical pier has struggled to get occupants and visitors. It was a mistake.

A proper pier could have been a real attraction.

And how would it pay for itself at 5-8m? Vertical pier may struggle for occupants, but it does have them so it makes money. You cant fit much onto a horizontal pier - except a few gambleys like saltburn. You'd have to play a lot of 2p shelves to make that business case stack up.

Piers were built when seaside towns were tourist powerhouses. Nowadays its cheaper to fly to alicante. Them days aren't coming back because you build a pier.

 

[Cooper6711]

And how would it pay for itself at 5-8m? Vertical pier may struggle for occupants, but it does have them so it makes money. You cant fit much onto a horizontal pier - except a few gambleys like saltburn. You'd have to play a lot of 2p shelves to make that business case stack up.

Piers were built when seaside towns were tourist powerhouses. Nowadays its cheaper to fly to alicante. Them days aren't coming back because you build a pier.

Exactly. Well said. It’s all well and good saying build a pier but it wouldn’t bring much money in. The bar seemingly makes good money and does decent enough food too.

 

[Foggysfplandiet3]

Was there this morning. Practically deserted. Half the shops shut or boarded up. A few people riding their electric carts about and a couple toking on ciggies outside Wetherspoons. No hand sanitiizer for love or money.

:sneaky:

A typical day in Redcar, then.

 

[Foggysfplandiet3]

Aye Redcar is depressing. Whoever pushed the verticla pier through should be hanged from a yard arm at the top. Harsh but fair. A modern horizontal pier could have been great.

Only newly opened business place I saw was the office of the new MP.

A modern, horizontal pier would also have been unjustifiably expensive not only to build but unviably expensive to maintain as well.

Then, take into account that Redcar's rocks are a SSSI and it would be illegal to penetrate them for the pier foundations.

Even the Pier Group admitted in the end it was completely unfeasible.

 

[Foggysfplandiet3]

And how would it pay for itself at 5-8m? Vertical pier may struggle for occupants, but it does have them so it makes money. You cant fit much onto a horizontal pier - except a few gambleys like saltburn. You'd have to play a lot of 2p shelves to make that business case stack up.

Piers were built when seaside towns were tourist powerhouses. Nowadays its cheaper to fly to alicante. Them days aren't coming back because you build a pier.

£5million to £8million? You can add a zero to the end of those numbers.

 

[Rayman]

Conservative heartland now.

Absolutely! We decided to boycott the place.

 

[paul66]

ive lived in redcar most of my adult life, its not a special place but do you know what? its alright. i dont frequent the town as much as i used to however its not hard to understand why the 2 main inhabitants of the high street back in the day being mcdonalds and marks n sparks are no longer there. i lived in the town centre for a few years and still went there after moving out for the nightlife, theres nothing that attracts me there anymore, if i go out for a meal ill either go to the pubs close to me on the edge of town for a quick cheap bite or for something better i tend to travel. which is a shame. it needs sorting really, the bad areas in redcar arent that bad, the beaches are beautiful, if anyone hasnt tried walking from to redcar to saltburn give it a go and just see what its like. we have industry, we have the coast, we have the moors, it really needs someone to get this working