Reading to be deducted up to 9 points.
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The_Lizards_Jumpers
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Warnock could finally get us promotion, he only needs another 13 teams to face the same fate and the championship is ours !
BoroMart
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Yup read that on here and elsewhere that their crimes are beyond Derby's. Apparently they made a £91.6m loss in season 19/20 alone, they have tried to hide losses by writing down the value of players or something
EuropeTwice
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They’ll probably claw 3 of them back Saturday
FatCat
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Yes I think Stoke are in bother.
though covid may save them.
Stoke City record losses of more than £90million - but may avoid FFP sanctions
The Potters' latest accounts show they posted a huge deficit in a year affected by Covid and no crowds
www.google.co.uk
S7DiscoDown
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You'd do well to get relegated with Derby and Reading losing points. Only one place up for grabs 
TeessideCleveland
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A few more and we might make the playoffs....So we are effectively 14th right now and if Stoke get their comeuppance 13th and 4 points of relegation
indeedido
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That be me.
Stoke the worst of the lot - scandalous and current.
viv_andersons_nana
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What is it with deducting teams 9 or 12 points? They should be deducted last season's total and start their way back from there. If they broke the rules in the season before that and the one before that then combine the points won over the period and deduct it from them. That way they're losing the advantage they gained by cheating as they've forfeited points won unfairly. It isn't a perfect solution obviously but 9 or 12 points isn't sufficient punishment for such severe levels of cheating, IMO.
Bernies_quiff
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Didn’t Villa sell their ground too ??
Although to be fair, their players are *****.
BoroMart
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I'd take Harry Souttar and Tyrese Campbell in a heartbeat, but other than that journeymen and average players.
newusername
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Going into administration isn't breaking the rules or means previous points were gained unfairly.
The point deduction was to stop teams doing a Leicester (who wrote off £75m) and then using their new found debt free status to get promoted at the expense of clubs that were paying their debts off.
BoroMart
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Going into administration IS breaking the EFL rules.
12. Sporting Sanctions
Introduction
The following Regulation provides for how sporting sanctions will be applied to Clubs when the Club, or any Group Undertaking, becomes subject to or suffers an Insolvency Event, and also makes provision for an appeals mechanism, but only on the grounds of ‘Force Majeure’.
By way of clarification the following are identified as circumstances which it is intended would be embraced under the category of ‘Force Majeure’. It is intended that this appeals process should be limited to circumstances which are deemed unforeseeable and unavoidable. In all these examples, each case would have to be considered on its own merits:
Club Income: In the event that a club suffers material adverse effects upon the loss of anticipated income streams which mean that it is unable to meet its liabilities as and when they fall due. This could only be grounds for appeal, however, if the loss occurs during the currency of a binding agreement (i.e. not upon expiry).
Default by another Club: In circumstances where an insolvency event is caused by the default of another football club. Once again, however, for this to constitute legitimate grounds for appeal, the outstanding payments must be significant enough to have had a material and adverse effect upon the Club.
12.1 If any Club becomes subject to or suffers an Insolvency Event, that Club shall be deducted 12 points.
www.efl.com
Is it to prevent gaining unfair financial advantage, possibly, depends on the circumstances. If a club falls into administration because over a prolonged period of time their outgoings are bigger than their incoming and beyond any available credit, then they have overspent and had access to playing staff that they can't afford.
12. Sporting Sanctions
Introduction
The following Regulation provides for how sporting sanctions will be applied to Clubs when the Club, or any Group Undertaking, becomes subject to or suffers an Insolvency Event, and also makes provision for an appeals mechanism, but only on the grounds of ‘Force Majeure’.
By way of clarification the following are identified as circumstances which it is intended would be embraced under the category of ‘Force Majeure’. It is intended that this appeals process should be limited to circumstances which are deemed unforeseeable and unavoidable. In all these examples, each case would have to be considered on its own merits:
Club Income: In the event that a club suffers material adverse effects upon the loss of anticipated income streams which mean that it is unable to meet its liabilities as and when they fall due. This could only be grounds for appeal, however, if the loss occurs during the currency of a binding agreement (i.e. not upon expiry).
Default by another Club: In circumstances where an insolvency event is caused by the default of another football club. Once again, however, for this to constitute legitimate grounds for appeal, the outstanding payments must be significant enough to have had a material and adverse effect upon the Club.
12.1 If any Club becomes subject to or suffers an Insolvency Event, that Club shall be deducted 12 points.
EFL Official Website - Section 3 - The League
www.efl.com
Is it to prevent gaining unfair financial advantage, possibly, depends on the circumstances. If a club falls into administration because over a prolonged period of time their outgoings are bigger than their incoming and beyond any available credit, then they have overspent and had access to playing staff that they can't afford.
