Prince Charles

Glad she's ok. Bet that was horrendous; have read the thread over the past day and I'm all for getting rid of the monarchy but I'd like to think whoever you were that the Police and Hospital would show compassion to let you spend the last moments of your family members life with them.
Thanks, It was, like you I’m no royalist, but we are all human beings and we all deserve compassion in difficult times.
 
Don't give a flying fVck what the Royals do and dont do. Not a part of my life/world. Hope the old guy pulls through though. What I will say though is lots of people have lost loved ones without being able to visit. But as you can see from posts here others were allowed in. So there does not seem to be a uniform rule throughout the country. Maybe there should have been, not for me to say.
 
Some heartbreaking posts on here and my sympathies are with you all. This week marked the 1st anniversary of when my Dad passed away, sadly that happened at home by himself and we never got the chance to say goodbye to him. What I do know is that if I could go back to that day knowing what I know now, I would have been there with him and that's something I really struggle to come to terms with, I was the last to see him alive and unfortunately it was me who found him the next morning.

BoroMart is a very, very good poster, very knowledgable and very fair. I always enjoy his posts and by and large we share the same views on things and I think we need to hold back a little on the grief he is getting. From information I have picked up on the board over the years he has been through an awful lot more than most of us will ever experience.

For what its worth I personally have no issues with Prince Charles going to see his father if its because he is in his finals days and hours and can't see that any of us could reasonably object to that. *IF* it is ultimately shown that Philip was only mildly ill and never in any danger then I will completely understand why some are annoyed that there seems to be different rules applied to different people. However, at this point we simply don't know.

Now isn't the time to argue whether the visit should have been allowed as we simply don't have enough facts as to Prince Philips condition, I'm sure that if these are indeed his final days then all of us, inclduing BoroMart, will accept it was a fair and just decision to visit his father. Equally, if Phililp recovers and was never in any serious danger then we will almost universally agree that it underlines a different set of rules for the priviledged

Let's draw a line under this and be patient and understanding, we've all been through the mill over the last year or so and we all seem capable of arguing for the sake of arguing, and is symptomatic of 12 difficult months for us all. We should all take a deep breath and count to 10 before we post (and I include myself in that, as its something I'm guilty of not doing on occassion) because we are pretty much all good people on here and we need less division amongst us not more.
 
Some heartbreaking posts on here and my sympathies are with you all. This week marked the 1st anniversary of when my Dad passed away, sadly that happened at home by himself and we never got the chance to say goodbye to him. What I do know is that if I could go back to that day knowing what I know now, I would have been there with him and that's something I really struggle to come to terms with, I was the last to see him alive and unfortunately it was me who found him the next morning.

BoroMart is a very, very good poster, very knowledgable and very fair. I always enjoy his posts and by and large we share the same views on things and I think we need to hold back a little on the grief he is getting. From information I have picked up on the board over the years he has been through an awful lot more than most of us will ever experience.

For what its worth I personally have no issues with Prince Charles going to see his father if its because he is in his finals days and hours and can't see that any of us could reasonably object to that. *IF* it is ultimately shown that Philip was only mildly ill and never in any danger then I will completely understand why some are annoyed that there seems to be different rules applied to different people. However, at this point we simply don't know.

Now isn't the time to argue whether the visit should have been allowed as we simply don't have enough facts as to Prince Philips condition, I'm sure that if these are indeed his final days then all of us, inclduing BoroMart, will accept it was a fair and just decision to visit his father. Equally, if Phililp recovers and was never in any serious danger then we will almost universally agree that it underlines a different set of rules for the priviledged

Let's draw a line under this and be patient and understanding, we've all been through the mill over the last year or so and we all seem capable of arguing for the sake of arguing, and is symptomatic of 12 difficult months for us all. We should all take a deep breath and count to 10 before we post (and I include myself in that, as its something I'm guilty of not doing on occassion) because we are pretty much all good people on here and we need less division amongst us not more.
This 100%. BM is a decent sort and I really don't understand why he's getting flak over this. People need to cool their boots.
 
My wife was in hospital for 15 days, last Sunday I was allowed in to visit her for an hour, it was such a relief to see her and to hold her hand, even though she was heavily sedated, it was a chance to talk. Things were touch and go, they had given her a DNR notice, her heart was too weak to cope with resuscitation.

Fortunately she pulled through and is back home. I’m not a royal or a celebrity, but I was allowed in, it’s not one rule for them, it really isn’t.
Good to hear she's on the mend
 
Remember when the Queen Mother died and I was watching a game on TV, I’m sure it was a Boro game. The game went off the screen and was replaced by a union flag. Very odd
 
Remember when the Queen Mother died and I was watching a game on TV, I’m sure it was a Boro game. The game went off the screen and was replaced by a union flag. Very odd
It was a Boro game Saturday evening 5:30 ko I’d been at another match that afternoon and went to a pub to watch Boro after, I remember getting a text. Don’t remember the game going off tho
 
Brits are so strange when it comes to the royals. I remember getting abuse when Diana died because I said although it was sad, it was no worse than any other young mother dying and leaving her children. People absolutely lost it because I refused to join in the national outpouring of mawkish grief for someone I didn't know and with whom I had absolutely nothing in common.
 
Remember when the Queen Mother died and I was watching a game on TV, I’m sure it was a Boro game. The game went off the screen and was replaced by a union flag. Very odd

IIRC this was a game against Spurs, I was at the game and remember the announcement coming over the PA as we were leaving that the Queen Mother had passed away, followed by a large impromptu applause from the crowd.
 
My wife was in hospital for 15 days, last Sunday I was allowed in to visit her for an hour, it was such a relief to see her and to hold her hand, even though she was heavily sedated, it was a chance to talk. Things were touch and go, they had given her a DNR notice, her heart was too weak to cope with resuscitation.

Fortunately she pulled through and is back home. I’m not a royal or a celebrity, but I was allowed in, it’s not one rule for them, it really isn’t.
Good to hear she's back home fella.
 
He has been responsible for changing many lives for the better. The Duke of Edinburgh award is a fantastic programme.
His label is on it and once a year he pops along but lets not pretend he runs it, or it was his idea. The programme itself is a good thing and I have provided reports for kids on it, but it is another PR tool for the royals. It could easily be run just as successfully by the government devoid of politicising and similar things are in other countries. Royal patronage is generally beneficial to the royal brand more than the charities.
 
My wife was in hospital for 15 days, last Sunday I was allowed in to visit her for an hour, it was such a relief to see her and to hold her hand, even though she was heavily sedated, it was a chance to talk. Things were touch and go, they had given her a DNR notice, her heart was too weak to cope with resuscitation.

Fortunately she pulled through and is back home. I’m not a royal or a celebrity, but I was allowed in, it’s not one rule for them, it really isn’t.
glad she pulled through, holding someone in such situations is a painful and dark experience, been there with my wife sadly the outcome went the other way
 
Now isn't the time to argue whether the visit should have been allowed as we simply don't have enough facts as to Prince Philips condition, I'm sure that if these are indeed his final days then all of us, inclduing BoroMart, will accept it was a fair and just decision to visit his father. Equally, if Phililp recovers and was never in any serious danger then we will almost universally agree that it underlines a different set of rules for the priviledged
You've said it better than clearly I have, and yes that's probably because of resentment to the royals showing through, so sorry if anyone is offended not intended.
 
It was a Boro game Saturday evening 5:30 ko I’d been at another match that afternoon and went to a pub to watch Boro after, I remember getting a text. Don’t remember the game going off tho
Thought it was a Boro game. Yes the screen went off for a while can’t remember how long for though
 
Sorry to hear that, mate.
cheers, life's crap sometimes and when your wife dies at 42, after misdiagnosis and failure by her GP, it's maybe hard to muster up pity for a 99 year old who has had a team of doctors giving him a check up every 3 months to head off every ailment major or minor. I mean if the state provided all of us with that we all might live to 99. But yes life's crap sometimes.
 
cheers, life's crap sometimes and when your wife dies at 42, after misdiagnosis and failure by her GP, it's maybe hard to muster up pity for a 99 year old who has had a team of doctors giving him a check up every 3 months to head off every ailment major or minor. I mean if the state provided all of us with that we all might live to 99. But yes life's crap sometimes.
That is crap, my wife is of a similar age and although she’s recovered from this setback (a side effect of radiotherapy) we know there will be more difficult times ahead. It’s heartbreaking and I really feel for you.
 
Id say that i'm a republican in the political terms of reference, but as people i dont wish Betty and her family any hatred or malice.

i'm of the view that they should be treated far more humanly than they are having to live at the moment, its inhumane to have her working at 90 odd years of age,
No-one's holding a gun to her head FFS!
She can walk away any time. Hopefully she takes the rest of the parasites with her.
 
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