Police to be supported by the military

Juninho10 said:
Why is it a worrying statement?

I never said they were going to open fire?

It's purely to show this is a serious issue - no one respects the police or the social distancing people they have going around - the army will command more respect
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By pointing guns at people?

The army and the police are two completely separate entities.

You put the army on the streets to enforce things that's martial law.

Population will not have that.

Brazilian electricians in tube stations will be terrified.
 
RandySavage said:
Bloody hell that's crazy. Could that happen in this day and age though with social media and everybody having access to a camera?
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Randy,
Any amount of pictures, footage, evidence and expose,s.
Government organised thuggery.
Media ordered to report the story to Thatchers benefit.( See current media for example)
Courts, as always, defending the indefensible .( see the final Hillsborough results)
Do not think for one second it could not happen now.
 
Lifelonfaninexile said:
Randy,
Any amount of pictures, footage, evidence and expose,s.
Government organised thuggery.
Media ordered to report the story to Thatchers benefit.( See current media for example)
Courts, as always, defending the indefensible .( see the final Hillsborough results)
Do not think for one second it could not happen now.
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I just can't see it happening these days. Especially under the command of this government after they've cut so much from the armed forces.
That's just my opinion.

The army serves the queen (wherever she's disappeared to) not Johnson and Cummings.
 
r00fie1 said:
Enforcement down the barrel of a weapon is the failure of democracy and ultimately that of politicians to lead
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I've got news for you, our government, it's politicians and senior leadership have failed us and failed democracy with their morals, behaviour, avoidance of accountability, lying, rampant cronyism, theft of taxes for dodgy deals, and avoidance of following the very laws they want the armed forced to enforce on the general populace.
 
RandySavage said:
I just can't see it happening these days. Especially under the command of this government after they've cut so much from the armed forces.
That's just my opinion.

The army serves the queen (wherever she's disappeared to) not Johnson and Cummings.
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Randy,
Are you saying the queen ordered Thatcher to set the troops on the miners and get Bernard Ingram to cover it up?
 
RandySavage said:
I just can't see it happening these days. Especially under the command of this government after they've cut so much from the armed forces.
That's just my opinion.

The army serves the queen (wherever she's disappeared to) not Johnson and Cummings.
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Not as simple as that - they act on her behalf
 
BoroMart said:
I've got news for you, our government, it's politicians and senior leadership have failed us and failed democracy with their morals, behaviour, avoidance of accountability, lying, rampant cronyism, theft of taxes for dodgy deals, and avoidance of following the very laws they want the armed forced to enforce on the general populace.
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If you read what Ive contributed you will see I have made that point abundantly clear.
Thats the escence of: Enforcement down the barrel of a weapon is the failure of democracy and ultimately that of politicians to lead.
 
Lifelonfaninexile said:
Randy,
Are you saying the queen ordered Thatcher to set the troops on the miners and get Bernard Ingram to cover it up?
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As I've already mentioned that was before my time and I have zero knowledge of it.
What I was implying was if it came down to it the armed forces would take the side of the queen over that of government?
 
FartingGnome said:
I once asked a police intelligence friend of mine if the submachine guns the police were carrying when GW Bush came to Sedgefield were loaded (I'd been talking to one of them). His reply was "Of course they are, what's the point if they're not?"

What could possibly go wrong?
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Probably nothing.... armed police are around all major landmarks / airport in London - barely nothing happens involving the general public

We have military police with guns at all bases / sites of national importance - barely nothing happens involving the general public

Nevermind armed police / security forces at Train stations / airports - etc
 
Juninho10 said:
Probably nothing.... armed police are around all major landmarks / airport in London - barely nothing happens involving the general public

We have military police with guns at all bases / sites of national importance - barely nothing happens involving the general public

Nevermind armed police / security forces at Train stations / airports - etc
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January 30th 1972.
 
Juninho10 said:
That was nearly 50 years ago..... things are a bit different now, it's not a civil war

And I'm a catholic from a Irish background saying this - seen as Catholics were shot on Bloody Sunday
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I too am a catholic from Irish background, I travelled Ulster often during the troubles.
And no, it is not a civil war, not quite yet !!
 
The metamorphosis from Democracy to Autocracy and rule by [presidential - style] decree is a process acheived by stealth.
In the name of "security" our rights have been chipped away and we have allowed them to be taken from us.
We now have rule-by-decree where Parliament rubber-stamps Presidential style decrees.
the Prime Minister behaves like a President - unfettered by a written constitution or by the rule of law.
The same autocrat who breaks the law and flounts protocol`s to support his own agenda, pronounces dic-tats to us [the population] - those who will obey.
We must not give up the fight to protect our liberty and freedoms - they werent handed to us on a plate and we are seeing them taken from us by this Maverick "Government".
 
If you've ever watched death of Stalin - the scene where they are in the toilets picking up the firearms is basically met police firearms unit.

It's such a s***y job. One of them shot some scally at wood green crown court last year and got charged with murder. I mean get it wrong and you're ****ed. The only reason I could think of anybody wanting to be in a firearms unit is if they really love guns and shooting people.
 
If you put 65,000,000 under a military "presence" - it provides legitimacy amongst organised racists groups to use weapons "in self - defence" [vigilantes].
It creates fear and panic amongst the majority of the population ,whove never seen a weapon [apart from on TV], let alone faced a cokked semi - automatic rifle or 9mm in their faces.
Resistance creates an "underground" to undermine naked force.
If troops are deployed in a civilian environment in Newcastle or Liverpool or Bristol or Leicester or Leeds - I suggest there will be resistance on the streets.
Theres people who post on here who`ve lived "the streets" in Northern Ireland [uniform and civilians] when Uniforms and checkpoints have been in place: I will let them describe what uniformed troops have to face - and how ultimately a loaded weapon and water cannon doesnt quell resistance.
Putting Soldiers on the streets wont solve the political issues - or ultimately make our environments safe from the coronavirus.
Its a very very very dangerous threat the Prime Minister has put on the table.
 
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