PMQs

The Conservatives and Johnson in particular are struggling to find an angle on Starmer, so they are trying to tie him to Corbyn who was ultimately personally unappealing to many of the public. So don't go there. A good general avoids fighting on ground the opponent wants to fight on.

Also, it is about showing this is a different Labour Party. That is how he wins.
 
That was absolutely terrible, even by Johnson’s standards. As said above, would be funny if it wasn’t so deadly serious.
Every time he goes to the dispatch box his own MPs must cack themselves and cringe.
Every time he goes to the dispatch box he must lose more of the naive that he managed to fool in order to get where he is.
His days are numbered, although I fear they’ll probably leave him in place to carry the can for the Brexit no deal mess that is just over the horizon.
 
Lefty said:
The Conservatives and Johnson in particular are struggling to find an angle on Starmer, so they are trying to tie him to Corbyn who was ultimately personally unappealing to many of the public. So don't go there. A good general avoids fighting on ground the opponent wants to fight on.

Also, it is about showing this is a different Labour Party. That is how he wins.
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He has a habit of not being able to mention Corbynites by name. If he wants to distance himself from Corbyn then there was no need to demand a retraction for something that wasn't directed at him personally.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
He has a habit of not being able to mention Corbynites by name. If he wants to distance himself from Corbyn then there was no need to demand a retraction for something that wasn't directed at him personally.
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The two most toxic allegations against Corbyn from the opposition, that had the most traction, were that he was anti-semitic and a terrorist sympathiser. Johnson was trying to link Starmer to this second issue. He was absolutely right to not speak about Corbyn, his name and Corbyn's should only be spoken in the same sentence if 'is very different to' is the context. His job now is not to defend Corbyn, but to distance himself from him in these two areas especially. Corbyn and momentum can waste their energy fighting old battles, Starmer's job is to prepare for four years time.

Labour's policies under Corbyn were popular, even with a majority of Conservative voters in Guildford (if they didn't know which Party had them), so that isn't a priority concern. Being electable is. Starmer must first of all avoid linkage with the two big criticisms the media used against Corbyn, so that the press can't say he's the same but in disguise. That is why he started off and made some big splashes on the anti-semitism row. That has worked I think. He is on safe ground with the terrorism, unless he allows his record to be ignored or misrepresented. So he found a way of managing both.

Corbyn is a decent bloke I think, but he is not a leader or a strategist. It looks like Starmer is.
 
Something else that struck me about today's PMQ's was Johnson alluding to the record breaking return to school. What does that even mean? Last summer everyone went back to school. He just can't stop with the hyperbole can he?
 
Starmer's worked on the 'box in' technique since he got the job. It's not only the questions, but the comments in between. He builds the walls around Johnson leaving nowhere for him to move, all the time infuriating him with the comments...then Starmer just takes the scalpel out, and proceeds to take slices off him.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
Something else that struck me about today's PMQ's was Johnson alluding to the record breaking return to school. What does that even mean? Last summer everyone went back to school. He just can't stop with the hyperbole can he?
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I think he was elected on the back of sound bites that the electorate lapped up, it’s a clear strategy and seems to be the only thing he had in his political arsenal.

he is so out of his depth it’s untrue and I don’t think he is even intelligent. He is so stupid he doesn’t know when to ease off with the meaningless sound bites.

hopefully we will reach a tipping point of public disenchantment, the sooner the better.

the man is a fool, a parody.
 
Posted about it on another thread earlier.

Looked really rattled on PMs questions today. Unshaven and looked like a rabbit in the headlights when the camera caught him off-guard a few times. But then he got to his feet waffled and spouted out a few lies and virtually refused to answer any questions apart from those inane ones from his own back benches. Never apologised to Starmer about his IRA comment even when asked to by the Speaker. The man is a charlatan. I can see his lot dumping him soon. Probably go out something like this read out on BBC by Laura Kuenssberg..."Boris Johnson has stepped down from his post as PM due to not fully recovering from his near death experience after contacting Covid 19."
 
not getting on sides but i watched most of it and he looked exhausted, definitely something off with him health wise i would say. or he didn't want to be there :geek:
 
Personally I think question time would be much better if instead of a bunch of sweaty old blokes shouting at each other and trying to impress other sweaty old blokes, they should ask interesting questions like how can you tell a hens egg from a quail egg or where do all the urban foxes live in the day, then get Fred Dineage and Gaz Top plus random ex page 3 bird to answer them but maybes that's just me.
 
Starmer may or may not get Labour back into power but it is almost becoming uncomfortable to see how easy he rolls Johnson around at PMQs. He’s clever and that will worry the Tory hierarchy.
 
asredastheycome said:
Posted about it on another thread earlier.

Looked really rattled on PMs questions today. Unshaven and looked like a rabbit in the headlights when the camera caught him off-guard a few times. But then he got to his feet waffled and spouted out a few lies and virtually refused to answer any questions apart from those inane ones from his own back benches. Never apologised to Starmer about his IRA comment even when asked to by the Speaker. The man is a charlatan. I can see his lot dumping him soon. Probably go out something like this read out on BBC by Laura Kuenssberg..."Boris Johnson has stepped down from his post as PM due to not fully recovering from his near death experience after contacting Covid 19."
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Starmer should have said I'm not ira sympathiser but Claire Fox is and you just put her in the house of lord's. For life.
 
At the moment the only thing they have to resort to, which Johnson had to stretch for today once more, is that Starmer was a Remainer. Even that could become a strength rather than a weakness as things pan out from next year.
 
Lefty said:
At the moment the only thing they have to resort to, which Johnson had to stretch for today once more, is that Starmer was a Remainer. Even that could become a strength rather than a weakness as things pan out from next year.
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Exactly it was pathetic from him

Made him sound like a 5 year old saying my dad is bigger than your dad
 
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