PMQs

Well as Ive said on the Christmas party thread it was lie after lie. Lie about following rules with the party, lie about buidlding new hospitals. They are clearly lies and the fact that he continues to mislead not only the House but the country should be punishable by dismissal.
 
As a non partisan listener to PMQs don't think Starmer laid a glove on Boris and that is his problem, decent material to work with but poor delivery
 
BeanBeany said:
As a non partisan listener to PMQs don't think Starmer laid a glove on Boris and that is his problem, decent material to work with but poor delivery
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I disagree entirely - Starmer has improved massively in recent times and Johnson batting things away with even more lies doesn't mean Starmer doesn't lay a glove on him. He highlights his lies and corruption constantly and it is starting to resonate. Tell me this, what would you like Starmer to do that Johnson wouldn't just bat away with another lie?
 
BeanBeany said:
I despise Boris and would love to see him deposed but honestly don't think Starmer has the fire power to damage him. He makes good points but it just doesn't register outside of core Labour voters
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What firepower would hurt Johnson in your view?
 
BeanBeany said:
I despise Boris and would love to see him deposed but honestly don't think Starmer has the fire power to damage him. He makes good points but it just doesn't register outside of core Labour voters
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Starmer once again run rings round johnson, who once again lied time and time again.
The problem is a good chunk of the electorate are only interested I stuff like get brexit done and bashing imigrants.
They seem to admire the lying , misogyny and racism sadly.
 
He’s systematically picking Johnson and his party apart. By the time the middle of next year comes round and the general election date is getting announced he’ll have destroyed them and will go in for the kill all guns blazing I reckon. He is a lawyer after all. He isn’t going to oneupman (is that a word) the part llama part custard blob with cheery quips etc. He needs to totally expose the Conservative party for what they are and he is doing so. He needs the populace to wake up and take notice though!
 
Chris_Boro said:
Tragic as that is, Johnson would easily have deflected it away blaming France/EU using anti immigration rhetoric. Exactly what the Tories want.
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Labour are scared of immigration/asylum as a topic.

I'm not sure why, but all the parties skirt around the actual issues.

I doubt we'll ever have a proper discussion around asylum seekers, as a lot of the public are convinced we have too many, when by any objective measure we don't take as much of our share as similar countries.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
A couple of questions about last year's Christmas party but none about the 27 refugees who died in the English Channel.
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Any stick to beat him with eh BBG?

The focus of his questions wasn't about Christmas parties per se as you well know but one rule for them and another for the rest of us.

Starmer has said plenty about the migrant issue including those poor souls who lost their lives last week in the channel.

Shame on you for suggesting that he doesn't care.
 
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BeanBeany said:
I despise Boris and would love to see him deposed but honestly don't think Starmer has the fire power to damage him. He makes good points but it just doesn't register outside of core Labour voters
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but that's more to do with the entrenched politics we have rather than Starmer or anyone else.

He's proven him a liar, the fact that Johnson hasn't fessed up is irrelevant, the only reason Starmer didn't specifically call him a liar is parliamentary rules. If the public are ok with that, then isn't Starmers failure
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
Labour are scared of immigration/asylum as a topic.

I'm not sure why, but all the parties skirt around the actual issues.

I doubt we'll ever have a proper discussion around asylum seekers, as a lot of the public are convinced we have too many, when by any objective measure we don't take as much of our share as similar countries.
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It's a topic that, despite all logical attempt at reasoning, is to blame for everything that is bad in people's lives.

It's been hammered for 7 years and has resulted in Brexit and a 80 seat Tory majority. It's also the go to subject used as a giant country sized rug to sweep any negative stories under whenever they come under real pressure. See sleaze.
 
I'd still like a job lot of opposition parties to call him a liar and all get suspensions from the House. It would have to be covered by the news media much more than his lying is at the moment.

It's not like they don't have enough examples they could use.
 
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