Planned riot in Middlesborough last weekend.

There was a guy on LBC radio earlier who travelled from Harlow to Middlesbrough yesterday to protest . His reasoning “95% at least of all blacks and Asians are causing all the trouble”. When pressed he said all his mates think the same and it’s what he read on the internet . It was truly depressing to listen to and the guy simply could not see what he thought was wrong …. Oh but he did say he’d be happy to be treated by an Asian doctor if his life depended on it .

I took a few key points that there was clearly people prepared to drive a long distance to protest , that at least for him the warped views on the internet are his basis for fact and that he is not alone . There are more of these goons out there having listened to him .

My heart sank listening to him . Truly awful stuff
 
So it sounds to me like fake rumours have been going around all day in an attempt to draw out groups of Muslims onto the streets/outside mosques etc, and it has been used as an attempt to paint a picture that they are out to cause trouble.

Same thing has happened in Birmingham.

Could be reading into it to much but it’s no surprise that the usual far right influencers are milking this on social media.
 
TheYorkshireTerrier said:
So it sounds to me like fake rumours have been going around all day in an attempt to draw out groups of Muslims onto the streets/outside mosques etc, and it has been used as an attempt to paint a picture that they are out to cause trouble.

Same thing has happened in Birmingham.

Could be reading into it to much but it’s no surprise that the usual far right influencers are milking this on social media.
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It’s all very well coordinated and organised with the likes of the Express and Telegraph in on the attempt to destabilise the country.

Even Musk making his comments, what is it to do with him?

I fully expect Reform UK offices to be raided in the coming weeks, maybe even sooner, as the Government tries to get to the bottom of the fascist ring leaders.

I also expect new emergency laws governing the use of social or even general media for political purposes promoting racism and public disorder.

I think it’s noticeable how quiet some previously loud right wing politicians have been over this, it would not surprise me if they have already been contacted and warned that they are also under investigation and will be formally interviewed by the police very soon.
 
festa5 said:
It also resulted in ultimately in the most right wing elements of the Tory Party having disproportionate influence over government giving them a far more credible platform to spread their propaganda and further "legitimise" the views of the racists.
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The centre right and more moderate conservatives were marginalised or booted out, to ensure support for Boris and his Brexit.
Boris saw an opportunity to become leader and turned from remain to out. In large part it's his doing.
 
HolgateCorner said:
It’s all very well coordinated and organised with the likes of the Express and Telegraph in on the attempt to destabilise the country.

Even Musk making his comments, what is it to do with him?

I fully expect Reform UK offices to be raided in the coming weeks, maybe even sooner, as the Government tries to get to the bottom of the fascist ring leaders.

I also expect new emergency laws governing the use of social or even general media for political purposes promoting racism and public disorder.

I think it’s noticeable how quiet some previously loud right wing politicians have been over this, it would not surprise me if they have already been contacted and warned that they are also under investigation and will be formally interviewed by the police very soon.
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I really hope you are right. At nearly 70 I am not that much longer for this life but I am really scared for my daughter and her family. The Tories have always offered hate wrapped in different colours and flavours to benefit themselves. They manipulate us to achieve this.
 
Johnnyweetabix said:
There was a guy on LBC radio earlier who travelled from Harlow to Middlesbrough yesterday to protest . His reasoning “95% at least of all blacks and Asians are causing all the trouble”. When pressed he said all his mates think the same and it’s what he read on the internet . It was truly depressing to listen to and the guy simply could not see what he thought was wrong …. Oh but he did say he’d be happy to be treated by an Asian doctor if his life depended on it .

I took a few key points that there was clearly people prepared to drive a long distance to protest , that at least for him the warped views on the internet are his basis for fact and that he is not alone . There are more of these goons out there having listened to him .

My heart sank listening to him . Truly awful stuff
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This is another key thing, people believe what they read, what their friends tell them they have read. They treat Rochdale grooming gangs, loony left labour not dating to say anything as being scared of the race card. They see headlines stating areas of UK are no-go areas. They do not see the follow up clarifications, because by then the news has moved on.
News isn't serious any more, politics hasn't been for years, social media is a big problem along with the media, in spreading misinformation.
People keep seeing this stuff and get angry.
Of course this distracts people from the real villains and gives them more people to blame for the ills in their lives.
But the media are run by the very rich people who do not want the people to mobilise against them and will keep feeding them this stuff and so it goes on...
 
Trug said:
I really hope you are right. At nearly 70 I am not that much longer for this life but I am really scared for my daughter and her family. The Tories have always offered hate wrapped in different colours and flavours to benefit themselves. They manipulate us to achieve this.
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I think they have picked on the wrong Labour PM with Starmer being a legal expert.

It is really disappointing for me to see some of the Tory media seemingly enjoying such damage being inflicted on our country and the attacks on the police. They have really nailed their true colours to the mast.

I’m the same as you in that my worries are more for my now grown up children.

These are Evil people in my view, they cannot be allowed to win.
 
B_G said:
Apparently a mosque in Stockton been set on fire?
When will these idiots stop? Are expecting days? Weeks? Months??
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Well the first sentencing happens on the 26th of August and they are scheduled daily from there.

I am expecting fairly severe custodial sentences. Max is 10 years. If the sentencing is being handled by the magistrates I think 6 months is the maximum sentence. If the sentencing is handled at crown Court then 10 years is the maximum.

We might be in for a tough couple of weeks
 
BoroMart said:
We do need stronger powers relating to online presence. Agitators spreading lies and the use of media to organise needs further controls
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Starmer said in his press conference that the current legal framework is adequate to bring both the rioters and organisers to justice. Not sure which new powers the police need?
 
Laughing said:
Starmer said in his press conference that the current legal framework is adequate to bring both the rioters and organisers to justice. Not sure which new powers the police need?
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Be interesting to see what the organisers get, I bet it’s the maximum.
 
Laughing said:
Starmer said in his press conference that the current legal framework is adequate to bring both the rioters and organisers to justice. Not sure which new powers the police need?
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Social media platforms have failed to fulfill there duties repeatedly. There need to be stronger penalties for organisations that fail to fulfil their duty in law. Id give custodial sentences to CxO of social media firms that fail to seriously tackle support for terrorism on their platform
 
BoroMart said:
Social media platforms have failed to fulfill there duties repeatedly. There need to be stronger penalties for organisations that fail to fulfil their duty in law. Id give custodial sentences to CxO of social media firms that fail to seriously tackle support for terrorism on their platform
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Not sure how you manage that when the platform is owned and managed in another geography.

Starmer did allude to this in his press conference but there was no detail.
 
BoroMart said:
Social media platforms have failed to fulfill there duties repeatedly. There need to be stronger penalties for organisations that fail to fulfil their duty in law. Id give custodial sentences to CxO of social media firms that fail to seriously tackle support for terrorism on their platform
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Yes it has to come.
 
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