Petition to have the Ref sacked

I just think they has to be something in place to improve the standard of refs and decision making as it's horrendous. Why should we accept just because it's Middlesbrough it's brushed under the carpet. If this was the Man United Liverpool match and Harry Maguire was kicked in the face like that and nothing was done it would be headline news action would be taken. But nope we are just little boro doesn't matter. Gibson must push for VAR to be implemented in the championship at the next EFL meeting. As bad decision making has cost us 6 points this week. Against Birmingham was a red card guy makes assist we lose we would of won if they went down to 10 men. A
 
If this was Liverpool and they were making a petition to get the ref sacked we would be calling them victimpool and laughing at them.

It was a dreadful decision by the ref. We were robbed. **** happens sometimes. It's better than having VAR.
I think the refs are making a shambles of VAR because it makes them too accountable and highlights their many errors. They are making it clunky with one purpose - to try to get rid of it.
 
I just think they has to be something in place to improve the standard of refs and decision making as it's horrendous. Why should we accept just because it's Middlesbrough it's brushed under the carpet. If this was the Man United Liverpool match and Harry Maguire was kicked in the face like that and nothing was done it would be headline news action would be taken. But nope we are just little boro doesn't matter. Gibson must push for VAR to be implemented in the championship at the next EFL meeting. As bad decision making has cost us 6 points this week. Against Birmingham was a red card guy makes assist we lose we would of won if they went down to 10 men. A
No retrospective charges were brought against Pickford when he ended VVD's season
 
No retrospective charges were brought against Pickford when he ended VVD's season

That's because the referee saw it and decided not to take action, wrongly assuming that Van Dijk being offside prevented a booking.

He's since apologised.

The FA only take action if the incident is missed by the officials.
It depends what the ref has written in the match report for yesterday, I'd be fascinated to see how he justifies it if he claims to have seen it.
 
That's because the referee saw it and decided not to take action, wrongly assuming that Van Dijk being offside prevented a booking.

He's since apologised.

The FA only take action if the incident is missed by the officials.
It depends what the ref has written in the match report for yesterday, I'd be fascinated to see how he justifies it if he claims to have seen it.
I think the ref saw it yesterday but didn't think it was a foul
 
I agree with you unless there is corruption involved of course and I wouldn’t rule that out.

The problem with refs accountability is that it is all behind closed doors, until it is more transparent then the frustrations will mount.

I‘m a big football fan, I will watch any football, and I’m finding the likes of the Northern League becoming increasingly attractive compared to what is going on in the professional leagues. Something is very wrong.
I think there has been a deliberate bias towards the big clubs by the EPL, because it suits their aim to promote their 'brand' and increase their exposure globally.

Championship im not sure what would be achieved by conspiring against us as a club, more likely that it was a **** poor decision by a referee.

Its all very well and good to seek accountability for mistakes, but whilst that's necessary its also worth remembering that the refs we have are as good as there is, as sad as that is.

I thought Mogga was right advocating ex players to train as refs. At least there's a basic understanding there, because let's face it, refs are very rarely people who have played the game, even at an amateur level.
 
I think there has been a deliberate bias towards the big clubs by the EPL, because it suits their aim to promote their 'brand' and increase their exposure globally.

Championship im not sure what would be achieved by conspiring against us as a club, more likely that it was a **** poor decision by a referee.

Its all very well and good to seek accountability for mistakes, but whilst that's necessary its also worth remembering that the refs we have are as good as there is, as sad as that is.

I thought Mogga was right advocating ex players to train as refs. At least there's a basic understanding there, because let's face it, refs are very rarely people who have played the game, even at an amateur level.
Agree with all that. I don’t think there is a conspiracy against the Boro, I think all clubs suffer poor refereeing, I do think refs are vulnerable to being corrupted from other sources outside the game.

I think it’s an unhealthy mix of multi millionaire footballers and managers being officiated by people who are on ordinary remuneration and being heavily criticised in public at times. Lots of people in football are making a lot of money out of it - except the refs. In our money driven society that’s a recipe for problems.
 
I'd like to think of myself as a reasonable, fair-minded man, but honestly, I've absolutely had it with referees. I'm now at the point where every time I hear or see a story about a referee being attacked, punched or verbally abused, no matter who the culprit is, my first thought is "the ref probably deserved it". My friends tell me my attitude towards referees is over the top, immature

If you genuinely think some bloke who's basically just doing his best to ref a game, without whom there would be no game, deserves to be physically attacked by some half witted, wife beating, inadequate you are completely deluding yourself believing you are in any way reasonable or fair minded.
 
If you genuinely think some bloke who's basically just doing his best to ref a game, without whom there would be no game, deserves to be physically attacked by some half witted, wife beating, inadequate you are completely deluding yourself believing you are in any way reasonable or fair minded.

I fear my point has been slightly, although perhaps not completely, lost. What I wrote was shocking and I maintain that it doesn't represent me in general. But that's the unfortunate truth of the way my mind has been warped by moments like this spread over decades of supporting the Boro, and it shames and upsets me to have to admit such a mindset. The fact that ref-blaming has now become an involuntary reaction for me says a lot about the damage refs have done to my psyche, no? Or perhaps it doesn't - perhaps it just says I'm a XXXXXX. I'm willing to entertain that possibility, and clearly that's your belief having read my post. Although it must be said that I didn't mention wife-beating so I'm totally unsure where that came from.

I watched an incident last week at a Kettering Town match where a player was sent off for raising his hands to the ref. Upon viewing the incident I was incensed by the ref's body language, and felt strongly that although the physical side of things was totally unnecessary and unacceptable, there are always two sides to every story, and clearly the player was somewhat provoked by the official. But again - that could just be me. I'm not proud of the bitterness I feel towards refs, and I'm working on it, so your comments aren't unwelcome.
 
I fear my point has been slightly, although perhaps not completely, lost. What I wrote was shocking and I maintain that it doesn't represent me in general. But that's the unfortunate truth of the way my mind has been warped by moments like this spread over decades of supporting the Boro, and it shames and upsets me to have to admit such a mindset. The fact that ref-blaming has now become an involuntary reaction for me says a lot about the damage refs have done to my psyche, no? Or perhaps it doesn't - perhaps it just says I'm a XXXXXX. I'm willing to entertain that possibility, and clearly that's your belief having read my post. Although it must be said that I didn't mention wife-beating so I'm totally unsure where that came from.

I watched an incident last week at a Kettering Town match where a player was sent off for raising his hands to the ref. Upon viewing the incident I was incensed by the ref's body language, and felt strongly that although the physical side of things was totally unnecessary and unacceptable, there are always two sides to every story, and clearly the player was somewhat provoked by the official. But again - that could just be me. I'm not proud of the bitterness I feel towards refs, and I'm working on it, so your comments aren't unwelcome.
You probably need to step away from football if that's how its making you feel.
 
I fear my point has been slightly, although perhaps not completely, lost. What I wrote was shocking and I maintain that it doesn't represent me in general. But that's the unfortunate truth of the way my mind has been warped by moments like this spread over decades of supporting the Boro, and it shames and upsets me to have to admit such a mindset. The fact that ref-blaming has now become an involuntary reaction for me says a lot about the damage refs have done to my psyche, no? Or perhaps it doesn't - perhaps it just says I'm a XXXXXX. I'm willing to entertain that possibility, and clearly that's your belief having read my post. Although it must be said that I didn't mention wife-beating so I'm totally unsure where that came from.

I watched an incident last week at a Kettering Town match where a player was sent off for raising his hands to the ref. Upon viewing the incident I was incensed by the ref's body language, and felt strongly that although the physical side of things was totally unnecessary and unacceptable, there are always two sides to every story, and clearly the player was somewhat provoked by the official. But again - that could just be me. I'm not proud of the bitterness I feel towards refs, and I'm working on it, so your comments aren't unwelcome.

I really admire your honesty. I’m also pretty sure in you’re not a whatever the word censored is, l think with the benefit of hindsight it is possible to be a reasonable person in pretty much every way but have a blind spot of unreasonableness for whatever reason.
The wife beating comment wasn’t aimed at you in any way, I just meant the average person who’d assault a ref wouldn’t be averse to giving his other half a slap.
 
Blooming hell everyone you’re talking about a mans profession here . He made a MISTAKE , ok terrible one that did have repercussions and could easily have been a lot worse but he didn’t do it intentionally. Imagine the impact on his family if he was dismissed over an error .
Have you guys never committed a howler at work ? I certainly did .
Hey never mind sacking him let’s all march down his house and give him a good hiding and be done with him . That’ll teach him to scorn the Boro .
 
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The number of reds we have to appeal and get turned over is a farce. This must surely be another to add to the list
 
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