Permanent signings

[Ravshoutsatbeck]

Giles and Steffen were good quality loans.

Muniz made sense but didn't click.

The team we had before January was still good - we won 8 out of 10 before the arrival of Archer/Ramsey.

Archer was great and helped us sustain our form. Ramsey was talented but injury prone and inconsistent when fit. But overall our record with Carrick pre-Archer and Ramsey was better than post Archer and Ramsey

The biggest losses were Giles and Archer because they were very effective with the way that we played. Steffen was good, but probably easier to replace.

Gilbert, Silvera and Rogers all make sense as signings. Top performer in a prem reserve team, top performer in a lesser league, and a good performer on loan from the prem last year.

Lath and Engel make sense as starting championship players.

If one or two perform above expectations we will challenge for promotion, if they struggle we will be mid-table. We can add 1-2 top loans like last year - I would probably wait until January.

 

[indeedido]

Giles and Steffen were good quality loans.

Muniz made sense but didn't click.

The team we had before January was still good - we won 8 out of 10 before the arrival of Archer/Ramsey.

Archer was great and helped us sustain our form. Ramsey was talented but injury prone and inconsistent when fit. But overall our record with Carrick pre-Archer and Ramsey was better than post Archer and Ramsey

The biggest losses were Giles and Archer because they were very effective with the way that we played. Steffen was good, but probably easier to replace.

Gilbert, Silvera and Rogers all make sense as signings. Top performer in a prem reserve team, top performer in a lesser league, and a good performer on loan from the prem last year.

Lath and Engel make sense as starting championship players.

If one or two perform above expectations we will challenge for promotion, if they struggle we will be mid-table. We can add 1-2 top loans like last year - I would probably wait until January.

Disagree with your assessments and conclusions.
Ramsey was outstanding for example. He is a bigger loss than Giles.
The 3 signings are all low stake punts. The A league is a joke of a league.
We have gone backwards so far this window and significantly so

 

[sweet_left_foot]

I see the sense in permanent signings; I'd argue it is a better foundation for building to promotion. If we depend on loan signings to mount a bid and we just miss out, it does feel like back to square one. A successful loan from a PL club is going to a) be too expensive for us to sign permanently and b) have his eyes set on a PL move.

However, I also feel we can't afford not to make some use of the loan system. Refusing to do so as a matter of policy or principle does put us at a a short term disadvantage, as other teams will have some quality loans from the PL. All promoted clubs had successful PL loanees last year. I just think we have to use it selectively.

I see the problem as the loan system itself. It has been set up to really advantage the PL clubs and to make the lower leagues into feeder clubs and B teams in all but name. I like to see it switched back to a maximum of 2 loan players at a any time.

If that means PL clubs can't find homes for all their young players, maybe they'll release them like they used to, allowing them to fix themselves up with permanent new clubs.

it's capitalism. just like the housing market. rent cos you can't afford to buy, but the rent stops you buying. 2 loan regulation makesa lot of sense to me, I'd even consider banning it and having a cap on player numbers on the payroll.

 

[h_m_boro]

Be happy with a couple of good quality loan signings, just not sustainable having 5-6 and being in a perpetual state of rebuild every summer.

A good quality loan striker/creative player could be the difference between Championship and PL and the riches it brings. Worth the gamble.