On the news this evening regarding the Championship going ahead

Cardiffdaffs said:
But thats exactly why they are disagreeing with each other. They are all protecting their own financial corner.
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Which of course the individual clubs will do in the event of a restart. My point was more that the government should, at this critical stage of the crisis, be taking the choice away from football just like any other business thats not allowed to open.
 
Zoophonic said:
Seems obvious to me that the views on whether the Leagues should be null and vouded depend on which Club you support. Not surprising most of us wanting to see them end given that we are safe and hate Leeds.
Even when I hear someone like a doctor opine on radio I think to myself “well I guess he supports Everton”
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I'm afraid I'm outside your category.
Don't give a firk who goes up or down at this moment in time.
People are dying, its not safe and we are likely to priorities players and the game so The Prem can continue to be self serving.
This is a great opportunity to re set
 
Erimus74 said:
for fairness of sport EVERY league throughout the land should complete their fixtures, something I've said from the very beginning
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With all due respect Erimus (and I don't mean that in any sort of condescending way), and whilst it might be principled, it's also a very naive view - football at Premier League and Championship level, is a very different beast to that at Stockton's level (to use your oft quoted example) - logistically, structurally, and financially they simply can't be compared .... in fact Premier League to League 1 and 2 is also another (different) beast. I don't think anybody could argue differently. It's just the way it is now.

Yes, I know you'll say it's all "football" but it really isn't, not now

This post isn't an argument for or against restarting football - simply trying to address the "must be the same at every level" issue
 
Malaguena said:
With all due respect Erimus (and I don't mean that in any sort of condescending way), and whilst it might be principled, it's also a very naive view - football at Premier League and Championship level, is a very different beast to that at Stockton's level (to use your oft quoted example) - logistically, structurally, and financially they simply can't be compared .... in fact Premier League to League 1 and 2 is also another (different) beast. I don't think anybody could argue differently. It's just the way it is now.

Yes, I know you'll say it's all "football" but it really isn't, not now

This post isn't an argument for or against restarting football - simply trying to address the "must be the same at every level" issue
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That's fine, I understand & yes it's all about opinions on here, I stand by mine, rightly, or wrongly, is not the issue just my opinion 👍
 
Malaguena said:
With all due respect Erimus (and I don't mean that in any sort of condescending way), and whilst it might be principled, it's also a very naive view - football at Premier League and Championship level, is a very different beast to that at Stockton's level (to use your oft quoted example) - logistically, structurally, and financially they simply can't be compared .... in fact Premier League to League 1 and 2 is also another (different) beast. I don't think anybody could argue differently. It's just the way it is now.

Yes, I know you'll say it's all "football" but it really isn't, not now

This post isn't an argument for or against restarting football - simply trying to address the "must be the same at every level" issue
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Average PL wage = £65,000 per week
Average League 1 wage = £2,000 per week
 
Funky_Chicken said:
So it’s ok for footballers to play a contact sport but we can’t get within six feet of family an friends. I haven’t even seen one of my kids for two months because she’s in Sheffield - whole thing stinks



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I guess you could technically drive to see her, and go for a walk at 2m distance?
 
To finish the league behind closed doors possibly with weakened teams because of Coronavirus effects or players contract restrictions is not my idea of coming up with fair and meaningful results.
To be honest, as long as Boro do not get relegated I do not care what happens to this season but that win at Charlton could turn out to be a godsend.
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
Have to say had we been in Leeds position I think very few of us word have wanted to see the Leagues finish without promotion. If you are being honest with yourself you would agree. Erimus on the other hand you seem a highly principled man and therefore I place you in the "very few"
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Cardiff its not case of me having principles, we got relegated becuase the PL took 3 points off us, West Ham had a more serious offence & were fined, I just like to see things done in the right way
When the PL deducted the 3 points off us everyone of us, to a man, complained that the 3 points we won were fair & proper, which was the case, the win didnt count & we were releagted, now we are saying the same that it doesnt matter about other league teams & what they have done so far, what they have acheived & could be once in a lifetime, your acheivements will be erased from the record books
If it were up to me I would defer all leagues, let Liverpool rightly be crowned champions, in front of a full stadium, who I have no love for, let Leeds & WBA promoted, etc, etc, let the lower league players, who have acheived so much, tell their future grandkids what they have done & be proud of it & if at the end of the day we go down, then we desreve to

I dont expect anyone to agree thats just my thoughts, but there is no right, or wrong in this sad affair
 
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Erimus74 said:
Atypical its not case of me having principles, we got relegated becuase the PL took 3 points off us, West Ham had a more serious offence & were fined, I just like to see things done in the right way
When the PL deducted the 3 points off us everyone of us, to a man, complained that the 3 points we won were fair & proper, which was the case, the win didnt count & we were releagted, now we are saying the same that it doesnt matter about other league teams & what they have done so far, what they have acheived & could be once in a lifetime, your acheivements will be erased from the record books, if it were up to me I'd would defer all leagues, let Lioverpool rightly be crowned champions in front of a full stadium, let the lower league players, who have acheived so much, tell their future grandkids what they have done & be proud of it & if at the end of the day we go down, then we desreve to

I dont expect anyone to agree thats just my thoughts, but there is no right, or wrong in this sad affair
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That wasn't me it was cardiffdaffs mate :)
 
1finny said:
You will be able to wrestle an opponent to the ground during a corner but you can't hug your mum.
'Distasteful' doesn't even come close
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Put it this way. As soon as the first football match kicks off I'll be going round my parents with the grandkids.
There isnt an insurance company on this planet that would insure a footballer if there was a clear and present danger.

If it's ok for footballers to mingle then it's fine for society to get back to normal and to ignore the fear coming from the gov and the media.
 
Throughout the last ten years footballers have been paid hundreds of thousands per week while the NHS has been starved of money and run down. People have still been perfectly happy to pay a ******** of money to sky every week to enable this. It seems mightily hypocritical to be moaning about the premier League being all about the money now. If you think this, cancel sky, support non league teams, form your own team like they've done at FC United rather than signing a petition.
If football clubs are able to provide testing to their players, I don't blame the football club, I blame the government for a failure to set up an adequate testing regime.
They should finish the season when it's safe to do so, whenever that may be.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Throughout the last ten years footballers have been paid hundreds of thousands per week while the NHS has been starved of money and run down. People have still been perfectly happy to pay a ******** of money to sky every week to enable this. It seems mightily hypocritical to be moaning about the premier League being all about the money now. If you think this, cancel sky, support non league teams, form your own team like they've done at FC United rather than signing a petition.
If football clubs are able to provide testing to their players, I don't blame the football club, I blame the government for a failure to set up an adequate testing regime.
They should finish the season when it's safe to do so, whenever that may be.
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Good post, I don't subscribe to sky
I think where the government called it wrong was naming footballers, many other industries are paid more, or excellent salaries, probably MP's too
 
A few points here:

If we cancelled the season who would be the favs to go up next season from the Championship?

I would have Leeds at about 8/11 odds on - OK they are lower odds now but not dramatically different

WBA would lose out more because they would likely lose parachute payments which would actually help Leeds.

If Leeds went up this year - they would be 50/50 to be relegated from the Premiership - look at Villa this season.

Its the same at the bottom end - Charlton, Luton, Barnsley and Wigan will likely struggle again. Stoke and Huddersfield may struggle more as they will have to have a clear out after losing parachute payments.

The UK Government is in a very strong position to force the Premiership clubs to support the whole football structure, because the Government can dictate if football returns. I don't think its unfair to say all the cost of testing for all professional clubs is met by the Premiership clubs. I would force Sky, and BT to some extent ,to show games free if they want football to go ahead this season. They would agree under protest. Also the broadcasters will gain additional advertising revenue. This would help lower league teams by increasing ground and shirt advertising possibly and possibly give marginal fans a chance to engage more with their non premiership team.

There will be no fans coming back to stadiums during June and July, so the point made by Pompey chairman is not valid, because football fans are not going to go to games this season so season ticket holders may still want a refund. Again there could be a pot of money from the Premiership to supply some compensation to lower league teams to compensate their season ticket holders say £10 per game per adult season ticket holder. Again if no compensation, no start up.

NHS/Government agencies to charge football clubs full cost of testing thus providing additional funds for the NHS. I have a feeling a lot of private testing is going on at the moment and the people involved are keeping a very low profile.

I agree a restarted season could be very hypercritical if the general population can't touch relatives in June, but footballers can touch each other, creating long term resentment against football. Possibly by June 13th most lock down restrictions can be lifted except mass gatherings. But its tight as the number of infections is only coming down slowly. I will feel a lot better when daily deaths are only 20 a day instead of current 400 plus.
 
The L2 clubs decision might suit them but what about the National League Premier? they are due for 2 teams to be promoted. Are L2 clubs allowing that? if not I would suing the FL if I was a NLP team with a chance of promotion. FL and L2 have changed the rules part of the way through the season and legally that is very dangerous grounds.
 
Personally I'm not really interested whether the season finishes, whether its played behind closed doors, whether the whole thing is abandoned this season, or any other possibly under consideration. Quite frankly, when over 40,000 people have lost their lives even the thought of football seems to be trivial and irrelevant.
 
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