Off to see Neil Warnock tonight

first 8 games identical, first season identical, start to the 2nd season.. identical.

Seriously, you've been shown up on this before, why do you keep trying to pull it?

None of that is remotely true.

Karanka's first 8 games: 4 wins; 1 draw, 3 losses, 11 scored, 7 conceded.

Warnock's first 8 games: 4 wins, 4 losses, 11 scored, 11 conceded.

Not the same.

Karanka's first full season: Finished 4th on 85 points, 25 wins, 10 draws, 11 losses, 68 scored, 37 conceded.

Warnock's first full season: Finished 10th on 64 points, 18 wins, 10 draws, 18 losses, 55 scored, 53 conceded.

Not the same.

Trying to sneak in Mowbray's results in to Karanka's record to suit your argument is nonsense.
 
Seriously, you've been shown up on this before, why do you keep trying to pull it?

None of that is remotely true.

Karanka's first 8 games: 4 wins; 1 draw, 3 losses, 11 scored, 7 conceded.

Warnock's first 8 games: 4 wins, 4 losses, 11 scored, 11 conceded.

Not the same.

Karanka's first full season: Finished 4th on 85 points, 25 wins, 10 draws, 11 losses, 68 scored, 37 conceded.

Warnock's first full season: Finished 10th on 64 points, 18 wins, 10 draws, 18 losses, 55 scored, 53 conceded.

Not the same.

Trying to sneak in Mowbray's results in to Karanka's record to suit your argument is nonsense.
Warnock had to do Mowbray’s job while he was here.. ie a rebuild with little to no money.
Imagine taking Ryan Fredericks, Kenneth Omerou, Ben Gibson & George Friend out of the 2014/15 squad!
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Warnock had to do Mowbray’s job while he was here.. ie a rebuild with little to no money.
Imagine taking Ryan Fredericks, Kenneth Omerou, Ben Gibson & George Friend out of the 2014/15 squad!
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Load of *****.

If you're taking the full 2013/14 as Karanka's first season (he was only in charge for 2/3rds of it), then Warnock's first season was 2019/20 and he finished on 53 points.

I've seen plenty of people on Twitter who are too lazy to check the actual facts when they see your graphics being shared and taking it at face value.
It's really poor form from you.
 
Load of *****.

If you're taking the full 2013/14 as Karanka's first season (he was only in charge for 2/3rds of it), then Warnock's first season was 2019/20 and he finished on 53 points.

I've seen plenty of people on Twitter who are too lazy to check the actual facts when they see your graphics being shared and taking it at face value.
It's really poor form from you.
It’s not poor at all, it’s well though out and non reactionary without the keyboard warrior mentality that just wants to see the world burn. Karanka didn’t come in at the same point as Warnock, the squads were different and the funding and support were different also.
 
It’s not poor at all, it’s well though out and non reactionary without the keyboard warrior mentality that just wants to see the world burn. Karanka didn’t come in at the same point as Warnock, the squads were different and the funding and support were different also.

It's well thought out in as much as you've went out of your way to distort the facts to try and make their records look similar when they're not.

I like Warnock, I was shocked and disappointed when he was sacked, I just don't feel the need to try and deceive people to big up his time here.
 
It's well thought out in as much as you've went out of your way to distort the facts to try and make their records look similar when they're not.

I like Warnock, I was shocked and disappointed when he was sacked, I just don't feel the need to try and deceive people to big up his time here.
I’m not distorting the facts.. the facts are the facts. I’m not trying to deceive anyone it’s a fair comparison.

Do you not think it is a distortion to compare Warnock’s standing start to Karanka with the benefit of Mowbray’s core promotion squad.. an extra transfer window and over half a season!
 
Rhodes, Gestede, Nugent, Downing, Bamford, Forshaw, De Sart, Clayton, Vossen the list goes on and on....and on
Karanka spent an absolute FORTUNE he bought 2 England Internationals. !!!!!
Neil spent next to NOWT

and your trying to compare???
Ridiculous 🙄
I'm not trying to compare. Newy is.

Their records aren't comparable. There are reasons for that, but it doesn't alter that fact. Karanka got more points per game.
 
I’m not distorting the facts.. the facts are the facts. I’m not trying to deceive anyone it’s a fair comparison.

Do you not think it is a distortion to compare Warnock’s standing start to Karanka with the benefit of Mowbray’s core promotion squad.. an extra transfer window and over half a season!
You need to make your mind up Newy.
You can't on one hand claim their records are identical and then on the other list the extenuating circumstances which explain why they weren't.
You state that their records are comparable then claim it is a distortion to compare them.
 
You need to make your mind up Newy.
You can't on one hand claim their records are identical and then on the other list the extenuating circumstances which explain why they weren't.
You state that their records are comparable then claim it is a distortion to compare them.
My mind is made up.. it is what it is.
 
My mind is made up.. it is what it is.
OK. Just one more question.
Do you think the main reasons Karanka's record is better is that he inherited a better squad, had less players unavailable due to injuries and also had more money to spend?
 
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