Not feeling the Coronation at all…

BoroMart said:
Which is apt because believing in kings and princesses and shiny hats and anointment from a supreme being is quite intellectually infantile
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At least believing Kings and Queens exist in places around the world is believing in a reality, I mean if you put the telly on, you’ll see the evidence.

Believing a republic will be bound to offer a fairer system, keep its people fed, eradicate poverty and ensure security, health and wealth for all and is fairly distributed is the stuff of fairytales, just take a look at how the great world republican powers like USA, China, Brazil and Russia operate, expecting the UK to be any different as time goes on is truly believing in fairytales.
 
Let’s not forget he isn’t just part of the Church of England, HE IS THE CHURCH.

As Henry basically created the church over night. He is the equivalent of the pope in the C of E.
 
coluka said:
At least believing Kings and Queens exist in places around the world is believing in a reality, I mean if you put the telly on, you’ll see the evidence.

Believing a republic will be bound to offer a fairer system, keep its people fed, eradicate poverty and ensure security, health and wealth for all and is fairly distributed is the stuff of fairytales, just take a look at how the great world republican powers like USA, China, Brazil and Russia operate, expecting the UK to be any different as time goes on is truly believing in fairytales.
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A well defined republic would deliver a fairer system. You are showing intellectual dishonesty by picking one’s that have the biggest problems instead of ones that don’t.

You keep bowing and scraping mate, I have more personal dignity than that.
 
BoroMart said:
A well defined republic would deliver a fairer system. You are showing intellectual dishonesty by picking one’s that have the biggest problems instead of ones that don’t.

You keep bowing and scraping mate, I have more personal dignity than that.
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Bowing and scraping 🤣 I don’t do any of that and wouldn’t, it isn’t a legal requirement. I’d happily shake hands though. If you ever had to appear in Court, would you rise for the judge or just stay sat and tell him you are his intellectual equal and he can do one?

I chose them countries because they are all powerful, wealthy republics with a variation of how they operate. You argue for a utopian system. If it was truly achievable and delivered, what happens when the superpowers become unhappy with us, our truly fair system, do you think they would be happy to let their people see a just and fair system with wealth, health and happiness for all, I’d think they would look to shut us down one way or another.

Power corrupts and always will, it really does not matter what system is in place, corruption will exist. The Tories have been elected fairly by the voters, Thatcher, Major, Cameron, May, Johnson all elected by the British people. Crikey loads on here even slag, Blair and put down a potential one in Starmer and you want to trust power to a single person elected by the people who voted in your hated brexit (mine too actually)?

A republic will never deliver your vision, as lovely as it sounds, because there will always be opposition to whoever is elected telling us things can be different, better, fairer, but the truth is it isn’t ever delivered as promised and never will be by anyone, President, PM or Monarch, there will always be rich and poor, leaders and followers, those that go with the flow, those that carry the burden of opposition, there isn’t a system in the world that delivers for all its people.
 
coluka said:
would you rise for the judge or just stay sat and tell him you are his intellectual equal and he can do one?
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A judge has gone to university and studied, has worked hard to learn the law, passed exams.

Charles managed to successfully fall out of his mothers vagina.

Your comparison is intellectually moribund, but not at all surprising as intellect has to be put on the shelf when you buy into monarchism.

The fight against corruption is an ongoing job and has many failures on the way. As I’ve said multiple times on this thread nobody expects perfect. What I’ve also stated is that ensuring there is no visibility or accountability for people in power is in itself corruption, and it’s exactly what this monarchy have done as a modus operandi, ergo they are always corrupt. Some corruption in a republic with the ability to eject and even arrest the worst excesses is far more acceptable than absolute corruption and entitlement of a monarchy
 
BoroMart said:
Haven’t watched a second of it, but I passionately believe in ridding this country of this embarrassment of a monarchy. Haven’t you got old people to entertain?
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Our little party doesn't start until 2 pm and we are well organised I must say. I've even got a big fence around the garden to keep out Republicans. ;)

If you can get to Normanby, you are more than welcome to come and join us.
 
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Our little party doesn't start until 2 pm and we are well organised I must say. I've even got a big fence around the garden to keep out Republicans. ;)

If you can get to Normanby, you are more than welcome to come and join us.
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Sadly I can’t and I wouldn’t want to
**** on the old dears parade. I hope they have fun but I also hope that people put the effort in to stop their isolated lives beyond this event
 
coluka said:
Believing a republic will be bound to offer a fairer system, keep its people fed, eradicate poverty and ensure security, health and wealth for all and is fairly distributed is the stuff of fairytales, just take a look at how the great world republican powers like USA, China, Brazil and Russia operate, expecting the UK to be any different as time goes on is truly believing in fairytales.
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Laughable. Russia? A "great world republic"? Hmmm...

As Johnson demonstrated we do not have a functional Head of State. When he illegally prorogued Parliament by lying to the Queen, a true HoS should have told him "no". Sadly Liz simply did as he asked. Would Chuck? Wood chuck...

Because other systems have flaws is not valid reasoning for blindly continuing with our own system rather than addressing the problems within it. A look across the pond and their unblinking adherence to "The Second Amendment" shows just one of the problems of an inflexible approach to the constitution, things written hundreds of years ago lose their validity and rationale over time. And "armed militia" might be a good thing if you believe that the Evil Empire might return to take them back into the oppression of the crown, not so much when it enables your local nutter to tool up with automatic weaponry and slaughter kids in a Primary School.

The existence of the Royal Family legitimises inherited wealth and privilege. Someone quoted the amount of land still held by the families of the robber barons that popped over the channel with Willy the Conq. Do not forget that Earls, Dukes, Kings etc. are simply the offspring of gangsters, thieves and bullies. The whole anointed by God thing is just the bunkum they have surrounded themselves with to legitimise their theft.
 
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