National Lockdown from Wednesday

Looks like Boris has been keeping his fingers crossed for some time, hoping things may happen for the better, even the scientists have been screaming at him to lock down for a month now, too little too late again....😔
 
Outbound international travel banned unless for work but no mention of inbound travel?

Hmmm.
 
Can someone explain why schools and universities are being left open? I'm not sure whether I'm for or against it, but can't really see many reasons for keeping them open.

Just looking for the pro's and negatives from each side, and what information there is to back up each side?

Kids education is important, of course it is, but I've not seen many reasons why we can't put things on hold, to get the R down faster?

Do they actually want the R down in schools and uni, or is it some secret herd immunity ploy for those groups?

What is the actual problem if we put the school year on hold and then just caught that back up 1 month per year, for the next few years (for those that have that many years left) or just effectively sacked this year off and then started again next September? Does the school year have to finish in July and start in September? If so, why?

This is all assuming we either come up with a working vaccine before the next school year or method of protecting the vulnerable, but the latter seems harder to achieve and more unrealistic than the vaccine.
 
Statto1 said:
Kids education is important, of course it is, but I've not seen many reasons why we can't put things on hold, to get the R down faster?

Do they actually want the R down in schools and uni, or is it some secret herd immunity ploy for those groups?
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Uh-oh! Conspiracy theorist tin hat wearing nutjob alert!!!!

(See, easy to play that game, isn’t it Molteni? 😉)
 
Statto1 said:
Can someone explain why schools and universities are being left open? I'm not sure whether I'm for or against it, but can't really see many reasons for keeping them open.

Just looking for the pro's and negatives from each side, and what information there is to back up each side?

Kids education is important, of course it is, but I've not seen many reasons why we can't put things on hold, to get the R down faster?

Do they actually want the R down in schools and uni, or is it some secret herd immunity ploy for those groups?

What is the actual problem if we put the school year on hold and then just caught that back up 1 month per year, for the next few years (for those that have that many years left) or just effectively sacked this year off and then started again next September? Does the school year have to finish in July and start in September? If so, why?

This is all assuming we either come up with a working vaccine before the next school year or method of protecting the vulnerable, but the latter seems harder to achieve and more unrealistic than the vaccine.
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Agree, the schools thing is odd, kids are super spreaders and guess what kids live in communities and families, it also puts teachers on the frontline, why is this risk being taken??
 
the_holgate_roof said:
Agree, the schools thing is odd, kids are super spreaders and guess what kids live in communities and families, it also puts teachers on the frontline, why is this risk being taken??
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Something doesn’t really add up, especially as it’s one of the most effective R reducing measures that can be taken.

Would say maybe it significantly helps with childcare needs for those that are working throughout. Not saying that is right though
 
RandySavage said:
Those who work in supermarkets are also on the frontline. Do we shut them too?
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People who work in supermarkets can wear PPE, our great govt has said teachers only need it in corridors? Originally they said masks weren't needed at all in schools. Won't be long before they'll catch up to other countries and say masks should be worn at all times.
Anyone think that they haven't got a clue?
 
I agree re schools / universities. It’s pretty clear numbers started to significantly increase when the kids went back to school.

people like to point to Eat Out to Help Out, but the growth rate during August was negligible compared what happened when schools and universities went back, combined with cooler weather
 
dooderooni said:
Dehvi Shridar on the BBC just pointed out thar the £12B spent on Test & Trace might have been better spent paying people to stay home.
Pretty fair comment I'd say.
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I don't agree with much of what Devi says as I think her approach is counterproductive but I do agree with her on track and trace.
 
Chris_Boro said:
It will be announced as not a lockdown lockdown, but closing of places and a restriction to leaving the house similar to March but not the same.

Definitely NOT what SAGE and Keir Starmer said we should do a month ago, with it being another example of the government doing whatever it takes, acting decisively to whack those pesky moles!

Or something...paff, whiff...
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SAGE just scaremonger though. Some of the stuff presented to government looks beyond ridiculous.

You can't play sport or go to church (I'm not even religious) but elite sports can continue. Total joke. More people are starting to realise the numbers don't stack up but until that reaches a tipping point nothing will change and we'll be locked into this for who knows how long.
 
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