Nashville Primary School shooting

Randy said:
@sherlock1969 care to respond to that or are your personal attacks only saved for me?
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Interesting. You expect someone else to say what exactly? In your behalf? You clearly have something to say (and equally clearly choose to ignore my clarification) so say it?

Rather than trying to call someone else into saying it for you.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Were there states that had tighter gun control that had to change with this ruling?
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It wasn't that they had to, it was that it allowed them to do so, if they chose to - and many already have.

The Supreme Court's Bruen decision held that:

Judges should no longer consider whether the law serves public interests like enhancing public safety ...
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In the wake of that ruling, here are just some of the decisions that have been handed down.

Courts [...] have declared unconstitutional federal laws designed to keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, felony defendants and people who use marijuana. Judges have shot down a federal ban on possessing guns with serial numbers removed and gun restrictions for young adults in Texas and have blocked the enforcement of Delaware’s ban on the possession of homemade “ghost guns.”
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Supreme Court decision creates turmoil over gun laws
 
SmallTown said:
Interesting. You expect someone else to say what exactly? In your behalf? You clearly have something to say (and equally clearly choose to ignore my clarification) so say it?

Rather than trying to call someone else into saying it for you.
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I have nothing to say other than guns should be banned in America.
 
VestasBoro said:
It won't be the last this year.

There'll be armed guards at ALL schools shortly. They view it was the way to tackle guns, is with more guns.

The video is shocking, they're walking around like they're playing laser quest just so calm it's scary, kids taught from an early age how to react to school shooters, scary.
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It was rather chilling, particularly the bit where the shooter is coming through doors and the scanning both ways, like they are going to run into a dangerous primary school child armed with a compass and sharp pencil.
 
SmallTown said:
No, quite right I'm not wishing ill on the kids. Just hypothesising on what it'll take to start changing things.

Oh and I know he's a Mail "journalist" but Dan Hodges actually had a good point on twitter. Once Sandy Hook happened the die was cast. The response to that was that ischool shootings an acceptable price to pay for the right to bear arms. Anything that's happened afterwards has been tragic, but accepted by Americans so its unlikely anything will change
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I don't disagree with your sentiment but I do feel that they would even choose to fight fire with fire instead and crazily buy even more guns as a reaction.
 
NYboro said:
It was New York State's laws on carrying which were overruled.
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It was indeed a case involving gun control laws in New York State but the thing is that since the decision overturning it was made by the US Supreme Court, it was applicable throughout the US, not just in New York itself.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
In you r experience in America, could you ever see the gun ruling changing?
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I can't see it; it was one of many reasons why we decided to come home and, I have to say, we do worry about our kids who are now American citizens, who live and work there.
 
Liamo said:
It was indeed a case involving gun control laws in New York State but the thing is that since the decision overturning it was made by the US Supreme Court, it was applicable throughout the US, not just in New York itself.
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...which is what I said - a Supreme Court ruling, overruling the wishes of New Yorkers.
 
NYboro said:
...which is what I said - a Supreme Court ruling, overruling the wishes of New Yorkers.
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I thought that was what you probably meant but it could also be read (especially by people less familiar than you with US legal system) as meaning that only New York was affected by the ruling. So I just wanted to clarify that point.

In fact in other online discussions I have actually seen people asking whether this decision was applicable in other states or only in New York so it's a mistake that could easily be made.
 
SmallTown said:
That's a terrifying thought isn't it? I never considered that
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It is terrifying but it's not a surprise as the gun lobby are already stating that school shootings could be 'prevented' if the teachers are armed. I'm not sure if they have discussed this with teachers yet though for their take on this.
 
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