Jedi boro
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I wished him good Luck for the season tonight adding except Monday oh courseLet’s hope he does well for Sunderland, starting Tuesday
he laughed and said aye except Monday
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Mogga, is it just a job? (Business) its not right....
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Spoke with Tony a few times over the years, an absolute gentleman.
Last time was a few months ago, he'd snubbed the Hartlepool job and had been approached by Barnsley.
I was at that Barnsley away game and was absolutely gutted to hear the bile directed his way by mainly younger Boro 'fans', as the teams returned to the corner dressing rooms, right past the big Boro support.
It very nearly turned really nasty between mainly younger v older supporters.
The man is a total legend to me and while I am gutted he took the SAFC job, I wish him all the best...after Monday.
Last time was a few months ago, he'd snubbed the Hartlepool job and had been approached by Barnsley.
I was at that Barnsley away game and was absolutely gutted to hear the bile directed his way by mainly younger Boro 'fans', as the teams returned to the corner dressing rooms, right past the big Boro support.
It very nearly turned really nasty between mainly younger v older supporters.
The man is a total legend to me and while I am gutted he took the SAFC job, I wish him all the best...after Monday.
viv_andersons_nana
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Good luck to him. After Monday, of course. As has been said. He’ll be home soon enough. The Tees is thicker than the Wear.
red_clowne
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I too was at Barnsley with Ray192 and couldn't believe the bile aimed at Mogga as he walked off the pitch to the side of us. A Boro legend if ever there was one. I wish him well but not on Monday obviously. FMMTM Mogga.
alanmoodysdog
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Barnsley was horrific ... couldnt bring myself to say anything , just stunned and felt for Mogga .... lifes a tvvat sometimes
coluka
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I agree about the raw anger shown to Mogga at Barnsley, it was awful. I truly hope nobody here vented their spleen at Karanka at Stoke away in 2017 either as that was equally shameful.
I do think Mogga’s interview after that Blackburn game was pitiful on his part, not his lies about the incident, the defence of Branthwaite, but the smirk on his face midst it all. That smirk threw away the high held respect I once had for him, actions have consequences.
As for it being just a job, would club legends like Steven Gerrard manage Everton? Would Gary Neville or Alex Ferguson have managed Man City if offered? Would Alan Shearer have managed Sunderland? Never in a million years, I know there are examples of club legends crossing divides, but when they do, like. i say, there are usually consequences.
Personally, I have no issue Mowbray taking the job, as to me following that Blackburn game interview, he became just another ex player.
I do think Mogga’s interview after that Blackburn game was pitiful on his part, not his lies about the incident, the defence of Branthwaite, but the smirk on his face midst it all. That smirk threw away the high held respect I once had for him, actions have consequences.
As for it being just a job, would club legends like Steven Gerrard manage Everton? Would Gary Neville or Alex Ferguson have managed Man City if offered? Would Alan Shearer have managed Sunderland? Never in a million years, I know there are examples of club legends crossing divides, but when they do, like. i say, there are usually consequences.
Personally, I have no issue Mowbray taking the job, as to me following that Blackburn game interview, he became just another ex player.
adammarc_98
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Tony Mowbray is one of a select group of people who I am incredibly proud to know have been associated with Middlesbrough Football Club in my lifetime.
His pride and passion for the club whilst here spoke volumes to me. This was a man who loved our club and made sacrifices to ensure that it was financially viable in the 2010s after the recession and the Strachan affair had left us in serious danger of veering off the deep end.
In response, fans got on his back and that culminated in some of the most dreadful abuse I have ever seen Boro fans give a club manager, a man who had literally given everything he could to our football club over thirty years. In response, he has only ever spoken with humility and pride about our club, our identity and its fans in the intervening years since.
Without Mogga, we don’t get the revival of 86, that diving header against Villa, the nucleus of that magnificent Karanka side. We have so much to be thankful to Tony Mowbray for, and I won’t blame for him for taking an easy six month payday at a club which won’t appreciate him and will sack in May after a 13th-placed finish.
Wish him luck after Monday.
His pride and passion for the club whilst here spoke volumes to me. This was a man who loved our club and made sacrifices to ensure that it was financially viable in the 2010s after the recession and the Strachan affair had left us in serious danger of veering off the deep end.
In response, fans got on his back and that culminated in some of the most dreadful abuse I have ever seen Boro fans give a club manager, a man who had literally given everything he could to our football club over thirty years. In response, he has only ever spoken with humility and pride about our club, our identity and its fans in the intervening years since.
Without Mogga, we don’t get the revival of 86, that diving header against Villa, the nucleus of that magnificent Karanka side. We have so much to be thankful to Tony Mowbray for, and I won’t blame for him for taking an easy six month payday at a club which won’t appreciate him and will sack in May after a 13th-placed finish.
Wish him luck after Monday.
adammarc_98
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To be fair, I do think that those rivalries are taken far more seriously by both sides than the Tees-Wear derby is. I think we’d be hard-pressed to say we really treat anyone like a natural rival in the modern era, having not really played Sunderland or Newcastle all that much in the last fifteen years.
Alzi
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More needle with Derby than Sunderland or the mags these days
coluka
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Unlike most on here, I do not consider Sunderland as a ’Derby’. I have no real guttural houghts on Sunderland. I may play along at times on here, but the truth is Sunderland and Newcastle are meh to me. I consider dirty Leeds Utd as our Derby, what with us both being Yorkshire clubs.
Like I say, for me personally, my issue with Mowbray was his smirking after that Boro/Blackburn game along with his pathetic words uttered and as such, he is no longer a legend in my eyes, he isn’t fit to lace someone like Willie Maddren’s boots in the legend stakes. I care not a jot about the man, just as he cares about nobody else on here, whether they put him on a pedestal or not.
It certainly was. Very emotional. Wonderful to see George junior unveiling the statue to his dad, something he has always hoped to see.
Chutney
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Of course Sunderland's a derby. You only have to look at the number of people (on both sides) desperate to announce to all and sundry that it isn't to know that. You don't get that when we play Huddersfield do you?
None of which alters the fact that Mowbray's a professional and - significantly - a grown up. It's perfectly fine for him to be Sunderland manager. Get a grip.
None of which alters the fact that Mowbray's a professional and - significantly - a grown up. It's perfectly fine for him to be Sunderland manager. Get a grip.
nowthen
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That’s what he said in front of the cameras but do you know if Mogga personally checked on Dael after?
Maybe we shouldn’t speculate.
Cress
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Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesbrough are the three major north east rivals. In my grand parents time the fans mingled on the terraces no bother.
e.g. "The highest attendance at the ground (53,802) was set on 27 December 1949, when Middlesbrough played their North East rivals Newcastle United."
Not technically a derby match if you define that as being in the same town. Huddersfield was a big away game.
e.g. "The highest attendance at the ground (53,802) was set on 27 December 1949, when Middlesbrough played their North East rivals Newcastle United."
Not technically a derby match if you define that as being in the same town. Huddersfield was a big away game.
American_Mary
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Mowbray 100% checked on Fry after the game and his defence of Branthwaite was, if I remember correctly not at the tackle, which he said he had seen but the referee thought was accidental and that Branthwaite was not the kind of lad who would deliberately hurt somebody but at Warnock's reaction at calling an 18 year old a 'f***ing disgrace' and trying to confront him on the pitch at half time.
I can't get my head round how anyone can feel that Mowbray was being disrespectful in any way shape or form to the club or was defending the tackle, he was doing what I would expect and hope any manager would do in those circumstances and trying to protect his player from criticism he deemed OTT.
If the boot had been on the other foot and Fry had caught Branthwaite would we think Mowbray right for approaching him on the pitch and calling him a disgrace or would Warnock been wrong in saying 'it was a blood and thunder game and you get incidents like that, I didn't see it myself but I know Fry and he's a young lad finding his way in the game, he's not a nasty player, he wouldn't go out to hurt someone and if the referee has deemed it accidental then I can't really say much else'
I can't get my head round how anyone can feel that Mowbray was being disrespectful in any way shape or form to the club or was defending the tackle, he was doing what I would expect and hope any manager would do in those circumstances and trying to protect his player from criticism he deemed OTT.
If the boot had been on the other foot and Fry had caught Branthwaite would we think Mowbray right for approaching him on the pitch and calling him a disgrace or would Warnock been wrong in saying 'it was a blood and thunder game and you get incidents like that, I didn't see it myself but I know Fry and he's a young lad finding his way in the game, he's not a nasty player, he wouldn't go out to hurt someone and if the referee has deemed it accidental then I can't really say much else'
Corcaigh_the_Cat
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My first derby was in the Bob end, before the seats went in, home and away supporters mixed together. The same for my second but the venue was the Roker End
Football rivalry has become far more bitter, it's silly.
Corco65
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It seems TM has always viewed his football career as a job. Listening to the podcast about 86 and the club on the brink of extinction, whilst some players talked about going in to the club, TM talked about going into work the next day. I guess we all view things differently, he has been bought and sold, hired and fired and worked under contracts, he views it as a job and you can see why, what we can say it has never affected his commitment or professional. Best of luck to him.
Sorry don’t agree. Would class Leadbitter playing for us more like a Cattermole or Johnson and no where near Mowbray. Mogga will always be a legend class of 86 and all that but I’m gutted that he’s taken the Sunderland job. Imagine if we both get to the playoff final and seeing Mogga walking round clapping the Sunderland fans after beating us.
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Cress
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Trafalgar Square ‘d be busy