Middlesbrough development corporation

ThePrisoner

ThePrisoner

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Can't really get too much excitement for any of these projects.

All the new buildings do is move the same staff around from place to place and we've no more employment overall* than when any of these people came to power.

*For reference Tees Valley employment is less than 1,000 higher at the end of 2021 than the end of 2017.
 
The problem is 88m gets you nothing these days . We need billions and some almost impossible plan to make the town and the area a place people would want to invest in. The area is for the most a dump and to be avoided unfortunately . I had to got into town last Saturday and about 1 in 3 shops looked boarded up or inhabited by some tacky shop that will be gone in 6 months. A real shame but it’s a generational change not something that will be turned round relatively quickly I think
 
Just read about this, hard to know what they are going to achieve that they shouldn’t be able to through existing routes (unless party politics stop development in Middlesbrough currently?)

This is before my time so I don’t quite understand the stick TDC gets, Tees Barrage and Teesside Park certainly seem to have stood the test of time as highlights in teesside
 
Air Resistance said:
There also appears to have been some interesting comments about Cleveland police During the press conference.
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Yes what the hell has that got to do with a development corporation? Just another populist play to the gallery. 'The plebs think Cleveland police are all bent - so I better slag the force off in a totally unrelated press conference'.

As we all know, only most of Cleveland police is corrupt.
 
Air Resistance said:
Just read about this, hard to know what they are going to achieve that they shouldn’t be able to through existing routes (unless party politics stop development in Middlesbrough currently?)

This is before my time so I don’t quite understand the stick TDC gets, Tees Barrage and Teesside Park certainly seem to have stood the test of time as highlights in teesside
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I will give you the Barrage, but the success of Teesside Park was at the cost of the death of Town centres locally.

Alss, wasn't the TDC initially responsible for the surrounding area of the Riverside stadium and its ultimate lack of development in nearly 20 + years?
 
Billy69_uk said:
I will give you the Barrage, but the success of Teesside Park was at the cost of the death of Town centres locally.

Alss, wasn't the TDC initially responsible for the surrounding area of the Riverside stadium and its ultimate lack of development in nearly 20 + years?
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I don’t remember pre teesside park, but there did seem a time when both thrived in the 90’s/00’s?

I’d forgotten about their involvement in middlehaven, guessing that they were dissolved before getting anything done.
 
Johnnyweetabix said:
The problem is 88m gets you nothing these days . We need billions and some almost impossible plan to make the town and the area a place people would want to invest in. The area is for the most a dump and to be avoided unfortunately . I had to got into town last Saturday and about 1 in 3 shops looked boarded up or inhabited by some tacky shop that will be gone in 6 months. A real shame but it’s a generational change not something that will be turned round relatively quickly I think
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To be fair I was in Guildford a couple of days ago and couldn’t believe how many shops were boarded up.
 
Billy69_uk said:
I will give you the Barrage, but the success of Teesside Park was at the cost of the death of Town centres locally.

Alss, wasn't the TDC initially responsible for the surrounding area of the Riverside stadium and its ultimate lack of development in nearly 20 + years?
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Out of town retail parks coexist with towns and cities around the country, and with better transport links and facilities than ours at that.

High street has died due to change in shopping habits - people rather go online now, can compare prices with other retailers and retailers need more stock for shoppers to browse which quickly outgrows / outcosts high street rents.

Additionally, town centres have anti social behaviour, pubs, beggars etc which are less frequent at retail parks, alongside free parking make then a far more attractive proposition along with lower business rates

All of this is exacerbated by being in one of the poorest regions in the north east meaning less spend per store, less attractive to brands and it's a problem the whine country has faced but we've had it worse, but without tees park and it's like for cheaper retail options I think it would be even worse

I think Stockton and boro have the right ideas by reducing the amount of retail space and becoming the owners, increasing leisure and then need to get quality residences in the town centres so that retail and leisure is used by people spending money rather than attracting smack heads and beggars
 
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