Mel Morris Interview

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Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm

Thought I’d start it as a thread so no one misses it. Ed Dawes interview with Mel Morris to be aired on radio Derby at 1pm, an hour long apparently.
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Apologies if already posted, Mel Morris gave an interview on the local radio station on Sunday. Interesting reading the Derby forum on it, most now seem to accept they can’t pin the blame on anyone else. Also talk of 70+ points deductions and possible liquidation.
 
Had a quick skim read through the posts (there are thirty odd pages) it seems that the fans now (largely) accept that Morris is the one that fukked them up. He has been using his own guidelines on things like amortisation, which could ever only end up with one result. Unless they had got promoted where the PL money tree might have saved them, if they had stopped up. Which as we know only too well isn't exactly a given and they should know given there recent visits to the promised land haven't ended well either. There are still some thinking that they are just the first Championship club to be rumbled. There is probably some truth in that but I think that Morris' creative accountancy is something of his own creation and other clubs are suffering but not to the extent inflicted by Morris on Derby.
 
Reading in a newspaper that Derby's debts are in excess of £50m. Mel Morris owns Derby's ground - so really there aren't many assets. Will a White Knight come riding to the rescue - I think its unlikely - so liquidation becomes a real prospect. That will mean Derby are chucked out of the league. I have been quite impressed by Rooney in this mess - he has not walked away and has handled the situation better than I would have thought. If liquidated, thre must be scope for someone to buy the assets at a real knockdown price and start the journey from non league back to the football league - Rooney and a consortium of fellow high profile footballers maybe?
 
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Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm

Thought I’d start it as a thread so no one misses it. Ed Dawes interview with Mel Morris to be aired on radio Derby at 1pm, an hour long apparently.
dcfcfans.uk dcfcfans.uk

Apologies if already posted, Mel Morris gave an interview on the local radio station on Sunday. Interesting reading the Derby forum on it, most now seem to accept they can’t pin the blame on anyone else. Also talk of 70+ points deductions and possible liquidation.
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What a sad & sorry mess, I look at it as a person who thinks he more important than others & he has a divine right to do as he pleases to try & get to the greed is good PL
 
Completely mis read this and tought it was on at 1.00pm today, just sat through an interview with the fella from The Feeling talking about the success of some musical (Jamie I think), waiting for Mel to come on (he didn't)
 
Two years accountant Mike Kelly reported in his fmttm fanzine column that looking at Derby's books was an incredible trail of new off the shelf company after company which was surely to try and throw people off the trail. Mike looks into the books of our opponents and found so much wrong about Derby's set up. And we now see exactly why Steve Gibson and others were right to point out about selling the stadium and other assets. As mentioned a solvent club in Derby County could be soon another Bury. Appalling. And everything FFP was supposed to prevent.
 
Nosmo-King said:
May be in a minority but I don’t take any pleasure in seeing a club in such a state - even Derby
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I agree there’s no pleasure in it, however the state they are in is a direct consequence of the owner trying to game the system. As per usual fans feel it most however not many would have been complaining at the time, and in actual fact a lot of the fans seemed to revel in it.

The club will get everything they deserve, and I hope HMRC play hardball and don‘t accept a miserly offer. Maybe the message needs to get across to all clubs that the taxpayer isn’t going to bail you out so get your house in order.
 
I have a lot of sympathy for deby fans but no sympathy for Mel morris at all who was always promoting himself on talk sport with Jim White **** licking. He will be remembered by Derby in the same way as Charlie amer was for us.
 
Glover_elbow said:
I have a lot of sympathy for deby fans but no sympathy for Mel morris at all who was always promoting himself on talk sport with Jim White **** licking. He will be remembered by Derby in the same way as Charlie amer was for us.
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A massive hotel just off the A38?
 
I'd by lying if I said I took no pleasure from it. A lot of their fans attitude towards us and Gibson has been smug and patronising despite the fact it was fairly obvious he had a case and they were at the very least bending the rules significantly to the point most neutrals would describe it as cheating (Wayne Rooney number 32 for example).

I'm also particularly prejudiced because my Derby fan mate hates Boro and has always revelled in our many struggles. Think he posted on Facebook last year when it looked like nothing was going to happen that Gibson was tin pot chairman of a tin pot club or something.

So yeah, some chickens have come home to roost.

But administration and all that follows feels too extreme a punishment for even those fans (but not for Mel Morris to be clear). I might have made a few digs if it was just points deduction and relegation, but feel this is way too harsh.

So I'm not saying anything, wouldn't wish it on any fans.

(Apart from Newcastle, Chelsea, Leeds, Man United and West Ham. Maybe a few others).
 
festa5 said:
I'd by lying if I said I took no pleasure from it. A lot of their fans attitude towards us and Gibson has been smug and patronising despite the fact it was fairly obvious he had a case and they were at the very least bending the rules significantly to the point most neutrals would describe it as cheating (Wayne Rooney number 32 for example).

I'm also particularly prejudiced because my Derby fan mate hates Boro and has always revelled in our many struggles. Think he posted on Facebook last year when it looked like nothing was going to happen that Gibson was tin pot chairman of a tin pot club or something.

So yeah, some chickens have come home to roost.

But administration and all that follows feels too extreme a punishment for even those fans (but not for Mel Morris to be clear). I might have made a few digs if it was just points deduction and relegation, but feel this is way too harsh.

So I'm not saying anything, wouldn't wish it on any fans.

(Apart from Newcastle, Chelsea, Leeds, Man United and West Ham. Maybe a few others).
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You do realise Administration isn't a punishment imposed by the EFL?
 
Rofesleg said:
You do realise Administration isn't a punishment imposed by the EFL?
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Yes. Which is why I wrote "administration and all that follows".

It wasn't perfectly written admittedly, but then I didn't realise the pedantry police were on patrol last night. 🙄
 

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Wycombe chief Couhig wades in on Derby crisis as he looks into £20m claim

The Rams avoided relegation from the Championship on the final day of last season and Wycombe went down to League One
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'Real jeopardy' - Wycombe chief wades in on Derby County crisis as he looks into £20m claim​

Steve Nicholson
14:00, 21 SEP 2021
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Rob Couhig, Wycombe Wanderers owner, is considering taking legal action against his club's relegation from the Championship after Derby County announced they are set to enter administration, BBC Sport reports.

Derby's draw with Sheffield Wednesday on the final day of last season saw them avoid relegation.

They finished one place and one point above Wycombe, who dropped into League One along with Wednesday and Rotherham United.

In the summer, Derby were fined £100,000 and ordered to resubmit accounts due to their amortisation policy, the method of calculating the value of players over the length of their contracts.

The EFL, at the time, released an interchangeable 2021-22 fixture list as there was a chance Derby could suffer a points' deduction that triggered relegation.

Rams chairman Mel Morris said in a joint interview with DerbyshireLive and BBC Radio Derby that the accounts are still to be submitted as "discussions" with the EFL are still to be completed but that there would be a breach "from memory about £4m for the 2017-18 season, which would have been something like a four-point deduction".

Now Couhig has told BBC Sport: "Not being in the Championship this year has cost us, on the surface, around £10m.

"It has probably cost another £5m-10m in residual monies that would have come from us being in the Championship for a second year. It is a £15m-20m loss.

"I am not just chairman and chief executive [at Wycombe], one of my obligations is to the 25% of my shareholders, which is a Trust made up of almost 1,000 of our fans. How do I explain to them that we have lost, in effect, £20m without looking at all the options? I don't know if there is a viable claim or not but there is no question we will look," he added without saying who any claim would be against.

Commenting on Derby's situation, Couhig said: "My fear is that they have placed a club like Derby, with its rich history, one of the founders of the league, in real jeopardy.

"People say they will put it into administration and somebody will come in and buy it because it is Derby. But how many points will Derby be faced with being deducted this year? More saliently, they are going to be faced with further deductions next year.

"In likelihood you would be buying a League Two team with an accumulated £50m debt. There are only so many people in the world who are out there and willing to do that."
 
Championship is ridiculous now - unless you have parachute payments (we did a great job of wasting ours) then it’s becoming increasingly the case that you have to take ridiculous risks if you want to
competitive at the top end and chase PL football.

Not defending Morris but he’s not been the only one at it
 
always a shame to see teams go this way, but with Derby it does feel like a kind of vindication and chickens coming home to roost.

I am struggling a little bit to have much sympathy for a section of their fans who didn't exactly cover themselves in glory when all this creative accounting stuff started to come out. It was obvious to anybody it was blatent cheating, but they lapped it up.

I certainly don't want them to go into liquidation or to lose their club forever, but a few years scrapping round the bottom end of the leagues wouldn't be too bad.
 
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