Meanwhile, in Sweden...

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I honestly believe the virus has mutated based on symptoms that seem to have vanished.

i work in a country riddled with it. In March when I caught it and was hospitalised, the cough seemed to be everywhere. Now it seems to have vanished but people are still getting symptoms, but not the cough.
 
Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants said:
I was early March when I caught it. Just seems odd that the cough seems to be vanishing but the effect on the lungs remain.
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My mam escaped with a mild cough. Dad was ill for a week with classic symptoms. I think I got it from my mother, what seemed to be almost asymptomatic, except for coughing up shyte for 3 months after a bout of lung pain. When running, my lung function was massively impacted. Easy hills became too hard to run up. It has taken months to get near normal function back.
 
borolad259 said:
My mam escaped with a mild cough. Dad was ill for a week with classic symptoms. I think I got it from my mother, what seemed to be almost asymptomatic, except for coughing up shyte for 3 months after a bout of lung pain. When running, my lung function was massively impacted. Easy hills became too hard to run up. It has taken months to get near normal function back.
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Are you able to do your run now without problem? It’s incredibly random the affects of this illness has on people.
 
I tried a few treadmill runs 6 weeks ago and was shattered. Absolutely done.
Im hoping to start a routine going again from Monday. All the hard work I done dropping weight and toning up early this year have been shot to bits.
 
Interestingly, although there are still well over 1000 new cases being recorded per week, the number of ICU admissions remains very low (0 - 5 per day) and deaths even lower (@2 per day). This may be due to the increase in infections being among a younger population, a trend which might continue as schools have now re-opened after the summer holidays.

It does mean though that the CFR gets lower and lower.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa
 
borolad259 said:
Interestingly, although there are still well over 1000 new cases being recorded per week, the number of ICU admissions remains very low (0 - 5 per day) and deaths even lower (@2 per day). This may be due to the increase in infections being among a younger population, a trend which might continue as schools have now re-opened after the summer holidays.

It does mean though that the CFR gets lower and lower.
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I think there are a couple factors to consider here.

1. Viralogists have always predicted mortaility rate to be somewhere between 0.5-1%. We are now seeing this in our figures when you look at them over a week rather than daily. When we were having 1000 deaths per day, the likelihood is we were actually having 50k-100k new cases per day but we just didn't have the means to test them and confirm these numbers.

2. When we were in our worst hit time (March/April), the virus was ripping through care homes and hospitals and killing vulnerable people. Circa 40% of fatalities have come from care homes. We now have much stricter controls in place around these settings to protect these people.
 
B_G said:
I think there are a couple factors to consider here.

1. Viralogists have always predicted mortaility rate to be somewhere between 0.5-1%. We are now seeing this in our figures when you look at them over a week rather than daily. When we were having 1000 deaths per day, the likelihood is we were actually having 50k-100k new cases per day but we just didn't have the means to test them and confirm these numbers.

2. When we were in our worst hit time (March/April), the virus was ripping through care homes and hospitals and killing vulnerable people. Circa 40% of fatalities have come from care homes. We now have much stricter controls in place around these settings to protect these people.
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Absolutely on both counts. In Sweden they seem to have got on top of the care home situation. They had similar structural problems to us ... underpaid workers moving from home to home, with insufficient training and PPE.

I actually think that the overall fatality rate will be below 0.5% when it all pans out. Probably between 0.05 and 0.1% of total population, though some countries appear to have more resistant populations than others. Those that have battled Sars Cov 1 for instance.
 
24 days since more than 5 deaths in the day. Just 29 in ICU with Covid nationally. Deaths running below the 5 year average.
Several hundred new cases per day (self-testing is now widespread) ... but few are becoming seriously ill. ICU admissions still running at around a couple a day. Yet they are doing what they said they would do, taking the long view, and not easing up restrictions in any signicficant way.
 
borolad259 said:
Interestingly, although there are still well over 1000 new cases being recorded per week, the number of ICU admissions remains very low (0 - 5 per day) and deaths even lower (@2 per day). This may be due to the increase in infections being among a younger population, a trend which might continue as schools have now re-opened after the summer holidays.

It does mean though that the CFR gets lower and lower.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa
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Sweden is a very fit population and to some extent Germany.
It seems that obesity is the biggest issue and probably why the uk has suffered most deaths. Lots of people were clinging onto life before the pandemic, which is hardly our governments fault
 
No1_club said:
Sweden is a very fit population and to some extent Germany.
It seems that obesity is the biggest issue and probably why the uk has suffered most deaths. Lots of people were clinging onto life before the pandemic, which is hardly our governments fault
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I think there's more at play than that to be honest. They (Swedes) have a terrible diet (hot dogs) and they eat more salt than any other people I know ... I should imagine that high blood pressure is an issue (in the Swedish govt figures, high blood pressure is the most common co-morbidity).

Dunno about the Germans.
 
borolad259 said:
I think there's more at play than that to be honest. They (Swedes) have a terrible diet (hot dogs) and they eat more salt than any other people I know ... I should imagine that high blood pressure is an issue (in the Swedish govt figures, high blood pressure is the most common co-morbidity).

Dunno about the Germans.
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Yeah I guess. I had a minor heart attack in Sweden. One of the meal options for one evening was a pork dish according to the nurse. It was only the shittyest bacon youve ever seen in your life 😬.
But lots of people exercise in sweden and half marathons seem to be going on every.week.
 
No1_club said:
Yeah I guess. I had a minor heart attack in Sweden. One of the meal options for one evening was a pork dish according to the nurse. It was only the shittyest bacon youve ever seen in your life 😬.
But lots of people exercise in sweden and half marathons seem to be going on every.week.
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Well, yes ... getting out into nature is big, and wild foods too (fish, mushrooms, berries, elk, reindeer). When I first went out there though, I just couldn't get my head around the contradiction of the image of healthy Swedes skinny dipping etc and the reality of kebab pizzas, hot dogs in every petrol station and the **** burgers. Bless them though, I love 'em.
 
No1_club said:
Yeah I guess. I had a minor heart attack in Sweden. One of the meal options for one evening was a pork dish according to the nurse. It was only the shittyest bacon youve ever seen in your life 😬.
But lots of people exercise in sweden and half marathons seem to be going on every.week.
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You can find a half marathon in the U.K. every week
 
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