brattleboro
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He’s average at best .shows how far we have fallen when some on here describe him as class. Bless them
Couldn't disagree more really, goalscoring midfielders who can also defend, as well as create, are a rare thing.No just as in thats what he does. I dont think hes great tbh and we need better to push for the play offs whether thats this season or next. Someone elss said it really well on another thread. Something along the lines of despite the positives from Tuesday such as more posession, sustained pressure. The players we have already with maybe 3 or 4exceptions, and all of Warnocks signings just arent fit or very good. The goals we conceded tell you everything you need to know about this squad. I dont see Crooks becoming a Leadbitter type signing and see him more fading from memory as soon as we get some proper footballers
Same couldnt disagree more. I think he'll be somewhere else sooner than later.Couldn't disagree more really, goalscoring midfielders who can also defend, as well as create, are a rare thing.
I think Wilder will see him as a shoe-in over the next season or two.
goalscoring midfielder? He's got 4 goals not 14. Patterson has got 7 and we let him go after a trial
I would wait until the end of the season before declaring him a goalscoring midfielder. He will score some goals, but he won't score the kind of high numbers that would get you classed as a goalscoring specialist.Only 4 midfielders have scored more goals in the Championship this season, and even if you include wingers in that tally, which I'd class Paterson as and Crooks most definitely isn't, it's only 9.
That's out of 102 midfielders/wingers that have played in the Championship this season.
I would wait until the end of the season before declaring him a goalscoring midfielder. He will score some goals, but he won't score the kind of high numbers that would get you classed as a goalscoring specialist.
I'd guess that he will get 7-10 by the end of the season and it's a good return but not the kind of numbers that allows other deficiencies to be ignored.
Of course, but we don't have any top championship players let alone proven prem. All our players have faults, and some have good abilities. It's more nuanced than just top class or rubbish.This is a serious question but do you actually rate any of our players mart? I feel like we've had similar debates over players in the past and every time I end up feeling like although you make some decent points, they're the kind of points I'd level at the very best of the best rather than players who are playing for a championship club hoping to get promoted through the play offs.
This underlines the gap between ourselves and the top three. He's a pretty central part to our team currently and I agree he's a good player but probably doesn't get in Fulham or Bournemouth's matchday squad.For £1m we’ve got something a bit better than Saville was for £8m. If we want to go up we need the next level player again. He’d be a good squad man for sure.
No im saying, he doesnt really come with a position. Like Sporar is a striker but whats Crooks? A forward? A midfielder? Does he play because we're trying to fit him in? For me pretty much. If we could get a better CM partner for Payero, crooks would only make the bench'He's one of those players that doesnt really have a position.'
Yes he does, he's played there the last few games, and played very well. It will be good to see Payero back alongside him. Give them time to settle and see how that goes.
I think we have to accept that we havent got a squad that is close to either of those two, nor will we.This underlines the gap between ourselves and the top three. He's a pretty central part to our team currently and I agree he's a good player but probably doesn't get in Fulham or Bournemouth's matchday squad.
maybe not, but there are plenty of class players that could play in the prem Jon Swift (Reading), Ben Diaz (Blackburn), Dickie (QPR), Chair (QPR), Souttar (Stoke), Gibbs-White (SU). Loads of players that are clearly better than any of ours. Any of those players would massively improve us in quality, are good enough to play in the top 3 teams, and probably in the prem.I think we have to accept that we havent got a squad that is close to either of those two, nor will we.
Outside of that though our squad is pretty competitive I think.