Man City charged with multiple breaches of FFP

Diego said:
Pep gonna resign?
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Suppose he will say 'innocent until proven guilty'
If it turns out he has been lied to tho, I'm pretty sure he'll go.

Then its Carrick to West Ham (already doing the rounds btw)
And Pep comes to us
 
B_G said:
Let them break away. Would be the best thing that could happen to the domestic league in my opinion.
Form a new more competative domestic league with more stringent spending restrictions in place.

The only fans that would lose out is the fans who support those clubs.
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I tend to disagree that it would be good for football and feel that the television would follow them, causing more clubs to go bankrupt and we would witness a division in football similar to what we are seeing in golf.

We both agree that football needs a shake up but allowing teams to form a super league is not the way forward and would cause divisions throughout the footballing world at all levels.
 
1finny said:
Suppose he will say 'innocent until proven guilty'
If it turns out he has been lied to tho, I'm pretty sure he'll go.

Then its Carrick to West Ham (already doing the rounds btw)
And Pep comes to us
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No chance that happens unless a substantial amount of money comes in. He'd be crazy to take that job on whilst he's got a good thing going on here and let's not forget still learning his managerial ways.

I think the only job he'd have his eyes on would be the Utd job after the Ten Hag era.

Much the same way I think it's why Gerrard hasn't accepted another job offer yet as he's waiting for the Liverpool job to become available once the club has been sold and the new owners take over with a goodwill gesture for the new fans hiring a club legend to lead them into a new era.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
I agree with some of that, but UEFA is pretty much at the behest of the big brand clubs, because they hold all the cards. They attract the big money in sponsorship and TV rights and without them UEFA would lose the majority of its power.

The Super League is a symptom of the elite clubs effectively locking in their success, in monetary terms and it was only due to pressure from fans that it failed and ended up as a huge PR disaster, but it's not dead by any means, only postponed. The Covid losses added to the urgency of the clubs involved, notably the Spanish ones who have crippling debt and no doubt accelerated the timeline, but it will be back on the table in time.
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I share your cynicism regarding UEFA. While they did rail against the European Super league, they didn't have much choice but to stand up to the big clubs. Unless they keep them within their mandate, there goes their income.

I also agree the SL has not gone away, though I think it's a more distant prospect than you do. My opinion on that is based on Man U and Liverpool's owners abandoning ship.

I do think the rest of football missed an opportunity when it had the momentum and moral high ground regarding the super league. In the immediate aftermath, I'd have tried to get some kind of PL constitution in place, by which all clubs agree to resign from the PL if they join a ESL. Such was the pressure at the time, I think they'd all have agreed.
 
An independent panel has to be established - the Chair is already announced.
Once he finds 3 more panel members the fun begins.
Man City and Prem League will present their case in private to the panel.
The panel will make a decision

If either party has a problem with the decision there is an appeal.
Same Chair but he has to find 3 different panel members.
Both parties again present their case in private.
The panel make a decision

Once that is done - that is it. No further appeal

This has got time and money written all over it.
 
1finny said:
An independent panel has to be established - the Chair is already announced.
Once he finds 3 more panel members the fun begins.
Man City and Prem League will present their case in private to the panel.
The panel will make a decision

If either party has a problem with the decision there is an appeal.
Same Chair but he has to find 3 different panel members.
Both parties again present their case in private.
The panel make a decision

Once that is done - that is it. No further appeal

This has got time and money written all over it.
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Sounds like a Saturday night game show hosted by Ant n Dec.
 
I think they may well go to town on city as far as they can as a way of saying we are capable of regulating football fairly ourselves and effectively to send a message that an independent regulator was not needed.
 
Whatever happens, I don't see any retroactive action on titles and trophies.

Their owners will probably feel it was a risk worth taking, sadly.
 
coluka said:
I think they may well go to town on city as far as they can as a way of saying we are capable of regulating football fairly ourselves and effectively to send a message that an independent regulator was not needed.
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Simon Jordan was saying exactly the same thing on TS earlier, all seems to be a bit to convenient that they do this in the same week the government is set to release the white paper on football governance reform including the need for an independent regulator.

City seem like an easy target to me, none of Europes football elite like the way they’ve done their business and they have almost made the PL a one team competition. Part of me hopes that they are found to have broken no rules and prove that the PL are just a bunch of amateurs that shouldn’t be trusted to run a bath.
 
B_G said:
Let them break away. Would be the best thing that could happen to the domestic league in my opinion.
Form a new more competative domestic league with more stringent spending restrictions in place.

The only fans that would lose out is the fans who support those clubs.
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The super league would replace the champions league. They would still clean up in the Premier as well. The riches of the super league would ensure they had enough money to compete in both.
 
Pak_Doo_Ik said:
Simon Jordan was saying exactly the same thing on TS earlier, all seems to be a bit to convenient that they do this in the same week the government is set to release the white paper on football governance reform including the need for an independent regulator.

City seem like an easy target to me, none of Europes football elite like the way they’ve done their business and they have almost made the PL a one team competition. Part of me hopes that they are found to have broken no rules and prove that the PL are just a bunch of amateurs that shouldn’t be trusted to run a bath.
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Have they though? The way I see it they have spent similar amounts to other teams but they have a manager that is getting the most out of that team. There is always a team that is dominant for a spell and at the moment it is them but if Pep leaves that might not be the case. Utd have been rubbish for a while but still spending top money still. City have only got 1 player in the top 10 most expensive signings. Chelsea have obviously spent ridiculous amounts and despite what Klopp says so have Liverpool.

I think the European elite dislike them because they are newcomers. They aren't wanted because it means one of the old guard has to miss out. It'll be the same when Newcastle catch up. I don't like the way they have been able to buy success but I don't like the way any team buys success and what they are doing is really no different to the others. It's mental that anyone would even consider a team spending money as cheating but other teams with more global fans and a bigger stadium allowed to spend even more money is ok.
 
TeaCider said:
They're under investigation, aren't they?
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Not sure mate, their write off for Covid was huge, they're building a new stadium and have spunked £500 million ish in the last six seasons I believe?

They must be in a worse FFP position than Man City and Chelsea you would think as a percentage of revenue in to monies out?
 
Having looked at this at little more closely it seems part of the allegations relate to 1) inflated sponsorship (again) 2) inflated prize money for 'winning' exhibition tournaments & 3) sponsorship from companies that allegedly don't trade.

If the last of those is in any way true then it merits very severe punishment in my view.

I won't hold my breath though.
 
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