Mustoes boots
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At the expense of buses, how many people in the Tees Valley get buses but he diverts the transport budget to his pet project.
Little Ben Houchen & British Steel
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North22
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So I’m paying more tax because the airport is losing money ?
North22
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To be fair every bus I see is nearly empty. Most flights from Teesside are full.
JonnyHistory
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Yes! They tried to claim a profit earlier this year (was a big thread in here about it) it was a big fat lie. They are using tax payers funded loans to stay afloat and will be for at least a few years so yes, in part, you are paying higher tax because of the airport.
Piccadilly Day Tripper
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The staggering brass neck of that tubby chancer.
'Let's not play politics with this important issue'
Also, 'sign my letter by the end of the day or reveal yourself to be a political traitor'
'I am politically pragmatic, and that's why it is the taxpayer that will pick up the bill for my struggling airport.'
Jog on mate. It might do you some good.
'Let's not play politics with this important issue'
Also, 'sign my letter by the end of the day or reveal yourself to be a political traitor'
'I am politically pragmatic, and that's why it is the taxpayer that will pick up the bill for my struggling airport.'
Jog on mate. It might do you some good.
JonnyHistory
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Nobody is saying that at all. What they disagree with is keeping a white elephant afloat that has basically never turned a profit in its existence for likes on social media and enriching friends at our expense whichg is what Houchen has done.
Everyone wants both things to succeed but they don't agree with lies and funding pet projects that are nothing but populist headline generators and cash cows for his friends.
North22
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So if they close the airport I will pay less tax ?
JonnyHistory
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Depends if that money is then directed to areas that will encourage growth long-term instead of short-term losses that is used purely to win votes.
As you am sure know things are not as simple as you are trying to make out. It is accurate that your tax money is keeping the airport afloat, what would happen if that money was redirected depends on where the investment goes.
Your tax bill is high because of 14 years of mismanagement of government finance, removing just one of their populist programmes will do little to undo the mess they have created and lower tax. That will take time!
North22
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I just want what’s best for the area. If he bungs a few mates so what I’ve seen what’s going on at tees works and have used and think it’s great having a local airport again.
JonnyHistory
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Those bungs are at the expense of us tax payers. The sale of the scrap for example could have seen millions into local coffers. Instead it went to his mates. Bungs are never good and it is us who pay for them ultimately.
Teesport could be good for this area, and it would be a lot better if managed correctly. When we allow fraud to go unchecked the tax payer loses every time.
Also is having an airport that loses the area money actually a good thing for the area? Personally I feel it should be changed into a trade hub rather than passengers. We have two large airports within roughly an hour of Teesside, our own airport is nice but if it costs us money at the expense of other necessary services then I don't see how a case can be made to keep it.
SmallTown
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Wow. I want corruption and tax dodging free ports. No wonder this country is in a mess with that mindset. Just, I’m honestly staggered that people would WANT corruption
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Turley lost her seat mainly because of her stance on Brexit.
It didnt help that many felt she was parachuted in and had no connection to the area before this
It was Vera Baird who lost her seat to Ian Swales mainly due to the closure of the steel works in 2010 and her lack of support for her constituents at the time.
Your right in that the rot started under Thatcher but Blair had 13 years to do something and did nothing. The announcement by Corus in 2009 for the 1st mothballing of the blast furnace was the final straw really and many in Redcar felt let down by the labour party and still do.
Remember Turley only got in this time because Reform and the Tories split the right wing vote.
She only got 400 more votes than the previous election where she lost her seat.
JonnyHistory
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By the time Blair came in the steel industry was privatised and decimated. Labour had a tiny part to play in the grand scheme of things, the fact that peoples ire is on Labour for any failings in the steel industry is a credit to nothing but propaganda and short-term memories.
ThatFragranceGuy
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Amazing people are arguing for bungs lol
Its not peoples memories that was the issue Vera Baird lost the seat for 1 reason only and that was the way Labour acted over the steel works.
Redcar was a Labour seat and the usual you could put a red rosette on a monkey and the people of Redcar would still vote for them.
That changed because many in Redcar felt let down by Blair and Vera Baird initially and then by Turley.
JonnyHistory
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So the 20 years of running our steelworks into the ground and privatising it for pennies was superfluous to misinformation about Turley and Bird's limited campaigning for the steel works?
Ok! I must have dreamt Thatcher destroying all our industries.
By the time Laboutr where in power there was little that could be done to save what was left of our industries.
So yes it is short-term memory from the electorate in our area, Tories destroyed almost all our industry in the North, not Labour.
You do realize that Ian Swales was a lib dem they didn't vote for the Tories in 2010.
Vera Baird lost her seat because the people of Redcar expected her to do more than she did in relation to the Steel works.
They would expect it from the Tories but not from Labour.
My dad who worked in the works would tell me Labour are for the working man. He never voted for them again after that he felt let down by the party.
Turleys loss was more about Brexit.
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JonnyHistory
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I am aware of what caused Turley's loss and stated on this thread that the number one issue was Brexit.
I am also aware who they voted in 2010 again that is irrelevant to the point I made and you are conflating issues.
The fact is the decimation of the steel-works had very little to do with Labour and the electorate blaming them is because of short term memory and propaganda.