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lostinyorkshire

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Just confirmed what we knew, they showed the players the video analysis, they worked on Millwalls set piece strengths.

Enough is enough its these players weak as pish.

McNair - get rid, cant concentrate for a full game
Dael Fry - should of sold him ages ago.

Spine of the team, get it sorted wasting 5 million on reserve strikers when we needed a cm is ridiculous. Someone needs to start sorting out this shiyte
 
lostinyorkshire said:
Just confirmed what we knew, they showed the players the video analysis, they worked on Millwalls set piece strengths.

Enough is enough its these players weak as pish.

McNair - get rid, cant concentrate for a full game
Dael Fry - should of sold him ages ago.

Spine of the team, get it sorted wasting 5 million on reserve strikers when we needed a cm is ridiculous. Someone needs to start sorting out this shiyte
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We got a centre midfielder. He's called Mowatt. Gibson replaced Tav with on paper a higher profile player (bet he's on bigger wages than Tav was). It's not Gibsons fault so called professionals can't match up a players attributes.
 
McNair has never been a defender. Has to be one of the weakest in the squad physically and mentally.

He looked okay when coming out from the back but he doesn’t even do that anymore, turns like a cement mixer and his head drops as soon as the other team put a few passes together.

Should’ve been one of the ‘surprises’ out the door that Wilder spoke about after Preston.
 
McNair has always been ****.

Fry gets bullied every game. His performance at Coventry was the softest I’ve seen from a boro CB in years.

Howsons legs have gone but he’s never been a good captain. Since we’ve signed him we’ve underperformed for about 80% of the time. He’s one of the main players consistently played throughout.

We need to address the core with a couple of players who can get stuck in a grind out results. We’re way too soft at the minute.
 
lostinyorkshire said:
Just confirmed what we knew, they showed the players the video analysis, they worked on Millwalls set piece strengths.

Enough is enough its these players weak as pish.

McNair - get rid, cant concentrate for a full game
Dael Fry - should of sold him ages ago.

Spine of the team, get it sorted wasting 5 million on reserve strikers when we needed a cm is ridiculous. Someone needs to start sorting out this shiyte
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It looks like that on the surface where by the players don’t want to know or look good enough
However this always happens, interim manager can’t get out of them what a new manager can because their future depends upon the manager and why he can get so much more out of the players
 
In 8 posts this thread has had a 'stab' at several massively underperforming players but I would argue that some like Howson are suffering primarily because he's having to do the work of all those who don't do theirs. The four players mentioned only scratch the surface of the problems however. I would have benched Crooks some time ago as he's virtually a passenger. McGree must be bloody fantastic in training to warrant a place on the bench, let alone a starting position because he's invisible when he's actually on the pitch. McNair seems a pale shadow of the player he was a couple of years ago and it's impossible to disagree with the waste of a shirt Mowatt has proved to be. In the summer window there was general agreement on this board that we were in need of a minimum of two decent midfielders but owing to Tav being given away it was nearer to three. Now it appears that four of a much higher standard than Mowatt was probably the minimum because none of the above are doing it.

Bearing in mind that barring being replaced with kids all of the above ARE our midfield until at least mid-January, the new Manager will be next Messiah if he can get a performance out of them.
 
We need a manager who can adapt our tactics to the strengths of what is a very limited squad. Wilder seemed convinced he could turn Fry, McNair etc into Matthäus. Ultimately you can’t polish a turd but they can still be solid players if you simplify things.

Unfortunately some of our fans think we need to be playing like Man City but that’s never really been the Boro way has it ? Our most successful periods over the last 20+ years have been based on a solid defence.

Even since our relegation the only manager to get us into the playoffs was Pulis which tells you a lot.
 
We know what this lot can do on their day - so yesterday was a million miles away.
Young blokes with a ball dont turn from more-than-capable Championship players, to donkeys overnight.
We have a production line of players and now it looks like another pile of players will be brought in to join the line.
Its pointless picking out individual players.
Collectively - they have been hiding - disappearing during a game - an thats a sure sign the blame game is going on behind the scenes and between individual players.
It says they are collectively unhappy - an probably thinking of moving on - or just collecting their wages.
Every year [on average] for the last 5 we`ve seen a new Manager - if that was any other workplace - workers would get on with it and pay lip - service "he`ll be gone sooner than us".
I cant think what the answer is.
Obviously we need to get on with sorting this mess out quick.
Its mid-table safety.
Its only two years ago we were in the same boat.
Getting to be a poison chalice arent we?
 
Really at a loss after that second half performance yesterday, one of the most pathetic I have seen in my 45 years watching the Boro.

Wilder called out the players for underperforming and was lambasted for it. It seems though they weren’t putting in those half hearted displays because they didn’t like Wilder. Maybe they just don’t like being at Boro? Maybe some are too close to the owner and hierarchy so feel above the manager?

However, again we’ve brought in a load of players who are no better than who they replaced and the cycle will continue in January.

Maybe try a different formation? With this lot it’s about survival rather than looking up, which is especially disappointing considering the promising position we seemed to be in last March. It says something when yesterday I was pinning for the days of George Saville!
 
r00fie1 said:
We know what this lot can do on their day - so yesterday was a million miles away.
Young blokes with a ball dont turn from more-than-capable Championship players, to donkeys overnight.
We have a production line of players and now it looks like another pile of players will be brought in to join the line.
Its pointless picking out individual players.
Collectively - they have been hiding - disappearing during a game - an thats a sure sign the blame game is going on behind the scenes and between individual players.
It says they are collectively unhappy - an probably thinking of moving on - or just collecting their wages.
Every year [on average] for the last 5 we`ve seen a new Manager - if that was any other workplace - workers would get on with it and pay lip - service "he`ll be gone sooner than us".
I cant think what the answer is.
Obviously we need to get on with sorting this mess out quick.
Its mid-table safety.
Its only two years ago we were in the same boat.
Getting to be a poison chalice arent we?
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Nah, just an average championship club.

You're right about these players - they all get criticised when results and performances are poor and rightly so, but they're way better than they're showing at the moment. All of them.
 
What we need are defenders who can actually defend for 90 minutes and not fall asleep. Some of them seem to have no awareness of their surroundings. How many goals have we conceded due to basic defensive errors. You can have the best tacticians in the business but once on the pitch, defenders have the responsibility to defend, tactics won’t change sloppy defending, a good kick up the ar@e might
 
McNair is good when the game is in front of him, which makes him a good ball playing CB - but you can see he doesn't relish the nitty gritty of defending either.

IMO he's not great in midfield when he has to play on the half turn more and possess a half decent turning circle.

Overall I do like him but we need him back to his form under Warnock.
 
Never quite got McNair. Signed from Sunderland for 6M, if I remember correctly. A ridiculous fee anyway. Then Pulis never played him for a full season, a situation similar to Payero in a way but no one really cared because he wasn't called Paddyio McNairo. Then woodgate took over and made him a box to box midfielder.Warnock also loved him but made him a defender. Was it a coincidence that we turned from a Playoff team into a soft centred basket case the minute he became a mainstay of the team? I struggle to remember any time when I've watched him and thought I'm glad he's in our team.
 
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