Lad that joined with Jones

Maccarone

Maccarone

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Can't remember his name but scored fir us?
What's happened to him? Is he even still with us?
He was raw but then so was Isiah and look at him now
Like when we look at lower League's, most of this lads are hungry and will grasp the opportunity, not all are good enough but if you can get an Isiah Jones once in a while......
 
Sam Folarin
Still with us playing in the youth setup, but not sure if he's now injured, or just fallen behind Sivi and Gibson as he hasn't played for a few games.
Coburn and Stephen Walker are back with the youth setup now too, and Folarin occasionally plays as a striker, so he might find it even harder... Needs to go out on loan in my opinion.
 
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Maccarone said:
Can't remember his name but scored fir us?
What's happened to him? Is he even still with us?
He was raw but then so was Isiah and look at him now
Like when we look at lower League's, most of this lads are hungry and will grasp the opportunity, not all are good enough but if you can get an Isiah Jones once in a while......
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Michail Antonio came down the same route (Tooting and Mitcham, Reading). You'd have thought that would have alerted the big clubs. We did well there.
 
Maccarone said:
Yes that's him, how is he doing, anyone know?
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Just edited my post. He was playing regularly in Sept/Oct/Nov, but he hasn't played for a few games... Not sure if he's injured or out of favour (same position as Sivi I think)
 
I think he got our consolation in the FA Cup defeat to Brentford last year.

I know he has been linked with a loan move to Hartlepool, but that is probably lazy journalism as Graeme Lee has gone to be their manager.
 
He looked very 'raw' against Brentford and a couple of cameos. Always drifting offside and ballooned a few crosses into the crowd (from what I remember).

You'd say he definitely needs a loan. It worked wonders for Jones.
 
I wonder if there's any rules for sending players out on loan vs. keeping an active/competitive youth team for the youth league...

I'd like to see a number of our youth players sent out... Coburn, Folarin, Sivi, Gibson, Malley, Fletcher, Sykes, Balde, probably others too.
 
Ash88 said:
I wonder if there's any rules for sending players out on loan vs. keeping an active/competitive youth team for the youth league...

I'd like to see a number of our youth players sent out... Coburn, Folarin, Sivi, Gibson, Malley, Fletcher, Sykes, Balde, probably others too.
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The whole point of the youth set up is to prepare them for 1st team football. If Boro thinks that sending them out on loan furthers this agenda, then nobody is going to complain that the U23s are under strength surely.

If they did, imagine the claims against Chelsea who have so many players out on loan there must be a few they have even forgotten about / lost. Remember Kenneth Omeruo, seven years he spent as a 'Chelsea' player without ever appearing for the first team (18 years old when he signed originally). Finally left in 2019!
 
What people sometimes forget re academy players going out on loan is that there has to be a team that wants them. Most academy players are unlikely to walk into League Two teams and even the academy's top performers can struggle to get game time as we've so often seen. I think that we may have tried to get Folarin a loan deal when he broke through, (I'm pretty sure I remember it being discussed) but for whatever reason it never materialised.
 
junos_boots said:
The whole point of the youth set up is to prepare them for 1st team football. If Boro thinks that sending them out on loan furthers this agenda, then nobody is going to complain that the U23s are under strength surely.

If they did, imagine the claims against Chelsea who have so many players out on loan there must be a few they have even forgotten about / lost. Remember Kenneth Omeruo, seven years he spent as a 'Chelsea' player without ever appearing for the first team (18 years old when he signed originally). Finally left in 2019!
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Chelsea are an extreme example of this, but they have the squad depth (and money) to do it. Lewis Baker's been on their books since 2014, now earning 40k+ a week, and has still never played a game.

If we send 5 of our best U23s out on loan at the same time, our U23 team probably goes from a championship contender (1 point off the play-offs last season) to relegation fodder. Does that have a long term effect on attracting new youth players? the youth team morale? Who knows.

Most would probably disagree with me based on Jones's current form, but I'd argue that Jones and Folarin were on a similar level when they both joined and played their first game for Boro.
Folarin made his Boro debut before Jones, and he's a year younger... The difference is Jones impressed when he went out on loan to Queen of the South, and Folarin didn't get that opportunity...

pierrequiroule said:
What people sometimes forget re academy players going out on loan is that there has to be a team that wants them. Most academy players are unlikely to walk into League Two teams and even the academy's top performers can struggle to get game time as we've so often seen. I think that we may have tried to get Folarin a loan deal when he broke through, (I'm pretty sure I remember it being discussed) but for whatever reason it never materialised.
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I think we tried under Warnock but the quote was "we'll send him out if we can bring someone in", because he was on the fringes... sat on the bench a few times. I think Jones was already out on loan at this point.
If Jones stayed behind to sit on the bench and Folarin went out, would we be seeing Folarin in the first team now? Pure speculation but I do think loans have a massive impact on player development.
 
Mendieta14 said:
I like to follow the u23s. The lad was never very good and isn't the one to look out for. I think Warnock just saw his size and strength.
Sivi and Kavanagh are the ones to watch.
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I liked Folarin last season when he was playing as the winger in the 4-5-1. Saw him score a few, but granted I don't watch many games so I could have only seen him on a good day.
Where do you watch the games?
 
Ash88 said:
Chelsea are an extreme example of this, but they have the squad depth (and money) to do it. Lewis Baker's been on their books since 2014, now earning 40k+ a week, and has still never played a game.

If we send 5 of our best U23s out on loan at the same time, our U23 team probably goes from a championship contender (1 point off the play-offs last season) to relegation fodder. Does that have a long term effect on attracting new youth players? the youth team morale? Who knows.

Most would probably disagree with me based on Jones's current form, but I'd argue that Jones and Folarin were on a similar level when they both joined and played their first game for Boro.
Folarin made his Boro debut before Jones, and he's a year younger... The difference is Jones impressed when he went out on loan to Queen of the South, and Folarin didn't get that opportunity...



I think we tried under Warnock but the quote was "we'll send him out if we can bring someone in", because he was on the fringes... sat on the bench a few times. I think Jones was already out on loan at this point.
If Jones stayed behind to sit on the bench and Folarin went out, would we be seeing Folarin in the first team now? Pure speculation but I do think loans have a massive impact on player development.
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Good news is they wont get relegated as I think we are already in bottom division
 
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