Kieran Scott

indeedido said:
From a slightly better position last year we went on a stellar run following the recruitment of Archer and Ramsey.
Barlaser did not contribute last season.

I'm sorry but I see no reason why we will go on a similar run, or even one strong enough to make play offs.
I think we have a lot of very average players.

People should know I hope I'm wrong, but we don't look like taking our current GD of +1 and ending the season like last season +28.
After 28 matches last season, Carrick already had us in the Play Off places with 42 points, GD +7, before going on a wonderful run, finishing 4th despite a lethargic ending.

Does anybody seriously see us striking out like that?
We have a massive squad and a triumph of quantity over quality.
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I do sadly agree with a lot of this. I do think Carrick willl have learnt a lot from this season though and hopefully we can make a stronger start with a better squad next season if we don’t make the playoffs this year.

People hoofing this thread to celebrate us being midtable is a bit small time. Fair enough if we go on a barn storming run and get promoted!
 
Some people are under the illusion we don’t score enough goals, in 9 games this season, we have scored 3 or more goals, in another 9 games we scored 2 goals, so the goals are there, on the other side we have conceded 3 or more goals in 7 games, and 2 goals in 8 games, so our defensive frailties are there to see, would be interesting to see how many of those goals conceded were self inflicted, by poor errors of judgement, rather than good attacking play.
 
If there's one thing Barlaser isn't it's bang average. He has the ability to pick a pass better than anyone else in the team and can be astonishing. Several goals this season (think Rogers at West Brom) wouldn't have been set up by an average player. He's also prone to errors which unfortunately have often led to goals for the opposition - which hasn't helped in an objective assessment.
Dynamo Kev said:
signed barlaser, silviera and a few other bang average players under scott's watch. but agree we are in a more promising position to push on than we'd normally be in before he joined the recruitment team.
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the_holgate_roof said:
Some people are under the illusion we don’t score enough goals, in 9 games this season, we have scored 3 or more goals, in another 9 games we scored 2 goals, so the goals are there, on the other side we have conceded 3 or more goals in 7 games, and 2 goals in 8 games, so our defensive frailties are there to see, would be interesting to see how many of those goals conceded were self inflicted, by poor errors of judgement, rather than good attacking play.
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While this is true the main problem is that we concede goals but we also create a lot of chances that don't get scored. When you play the way we do you expect to concede goals because it's risky and it is ok to concede as long as you are scoring more than the opposition. That's the problem. It's not working this year playing dangerously to create a lot of chances because we're not finishing enough of them.

We either need to be much tighter at the back, which would change the way we play and reduce the chances we get meaning a more clinical striker is even more of a necessity or we carry on what we are doing but find a way of converting our chances so we can win 3-2 instead of losing 2-1 etc.
 
GingerTravel said:
If there's one thing Barlaser isn't it's bang average. He has the ability to pick a pass better than anyone else in the team and can be astonishing. Several goals this season (think Rogers at West Brom) wouldn't have been set up by an average player. He's also prone to errors which unfortunately have often led to goals for the opposition - which hasn't helped in an objective assessment.
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Overall ability he is bang overage. his capability isnheavily weighted to his forward passing, but without the ball he’s poor, and he lacks athleticism. He’s a mid to lower champ midfielder and unlikely to progress beyond that
 
What is amusing on this thread is that posters will only see what confirms their bias. As someone rightly pointed out we are only three points adrift of our total for the same number of games played. There is also an odd slew of goal scoring where we seem to be scoring relatively freely away from home and struggling at The Riverside. Our goals scored column tallies with those around us and the goals against column is similar. And this after losing the first six/seven game (I forget and can't be bothered to look it up). As for the "fkkup" goals conceded by playing out from the back, I don't recall many this season. I recall a few where we have "got away with it" (like the Cole Palmer miss in the cup semi). Dieng in particular gives us less "heart in the mouth" moments than Steffen did.
 
Alzi said:
I do sadly agree with a lot of this. I do think Carrick willl have learnt a lot from this season though and hopefully we can make a stronger start with a better squad next season if we don’t make the playoffs this year.

People hoofing this thread to celebrate us being midtable is a bit small time. Fair enough if we go on a barn storming run and get promoted!
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I don't know who hoofed it but it's likely to be in response to the OP MFCJ, I think, who stated our buys were garbage and we were heading to league 1. In that context, "mid-table" is way above where he expected us to be and a 10million bid on the table for Rogers seems to suggest our buys weren't garbage.

You could also argue that mid-table, whilst roughly true, misses some important context about where we are in the table.
 
Can anyone remember a season when we had as many players injured as fit over a 2 month period?

How many points have been lost because we had 10 players missing for a game etc?

Injuries and other reasons for misssing are not the sole reason for being mid table, but they have made a greater than normal contribution.
 
AytonMews said:
With just a “normal” amount of injuries this season - ie maybe missing a couple of players each week - I think we would be comfortably in the top 6
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I agree, which must bring into question the training and match prep, surely there is more to this than just being extremely unlucky?
 
Muttley said:
What is amusing on this thread is that posters will only see what confirms their bias. As someone rightly pointed out we are only three points adrift of our total for the same number of games played. There is also an odd slew of goal scoring where we seem to be scoring relatively freely away from home and struggling at The Riverside. Our goals scored column tallies with those around us and the goals against column is similar. And this after losing the first six/seven game (I forget and can't be bothered to look it up). As for the "fkkup" goals conceded by playing out from the back, I don't recall many this season. I recall a few where we have "got away with it" (like the Cole Palmer miss in the cup semi). Dieng in particular gives us less "heart in the mouth" moments than Steffen did.
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The goals conceded have been far more on the counter than failing to beat the press when playing out from the back.

Teams hit out left flank when we lose it high up the pitch and exploit the lack of pace and cover in that area. That’s probably the biggest single source of goals.

We’ve also conceded a lot from the edge of the box, a lot more than normal, which indicates a lack of CDM closing down
 
Redwurzel said:
Can anyone remember a season when we had as many players injured as fit over a 2 month period?

How many points have been lost because we had 10 players missing for a game etc?

Injuries and other reasons for misssing are not the sole reason for being mid table, but they have made a greater than normal contribution.
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Not just the injuries but we regularly have two or three players who are not 100% match fit in the team which has to impact results too
 
I suspect many people who dismiss Dan Barlaser as a player would also have dismissed Michael Carrick as a player
 
The ’3 points off play offs and last season‘ is true but I don’t think gives the full picture.

This time last season there was at least 4 (possibly 5) play off positions up for grabs.
It’s easy to conclude there are only 2 left now - with at least 8 in contention.

Having said that - all things being equal we will start next season with a better squad than we started this season.
 
GingerTravel said:
If there's one thing Barlaser isn't it's bang average. He has the ability to pick a pass better than anyone else in the team and can be astonishing. Several goals this season (think Rogers at West Brom) wouldn't have been set up by an average player. He's also prone to errors which unfortunately have often led to goals for the opposition - which hasn't helped in an objective assessment.
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oh he is bang average though. look at the flip side of what you said. he is shocking when defending, barely puts a tackle in. loses the ball in dangerous areas all the time. passes, he can be great but he also passes straight to oppo players and leaves us exposed far to often. he slows attacks down far to much and is a hindrance to us in attacking areas more often than he is an asset.

if he never had that passing ability i wouldnt call him bang average i'd call him utterly useless.
 
1finny said:
The ’3 points off play offs and last season‘ is true but I don’t think gives the full picture.

This time last season there was at least 4 (possibly 5) play off positions up for grabs.
It’s easy to conclude there are only 2 left now - with at least 8 in contention.

Having said that - all things being equal we will start next season with a better squad than we started this season.
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really i would be so confident if i was you. hackney probs leave as will obrien, paddy and likely rogers. howson might retire or leave us. that midfield will be filled with barlaser and crooks as the only two senior player able to play come pre season start. we need new strikers and if rumours are true we could lose mcgree to. I think we might end up having another massive rebuild. hopefully with some money to play with from rogers and hackney sales.
 
Muttley said:
What is amusing on this thread is that posters will only see what confirms their bias. As someone rightly pointed out we are only three points adrift of our total for the same number of games played. There is also an odd slew of goal scoring where we seem to be scoring relatively freely away from home and struggling at The Riverside. Our goals scored column tallies with those around us and the goals against column is similar. And this after losing the first six/seven game (I forget and can't be bothered to look it up). As for the "fkkup" goals conceded by playing out from the back, I don't recall many this season. I recall a few where we have "got away with it" (like the Cole Palmer miss in the cup semi). Dieng in particular gives us less "heart in the mouth" moments than Steffen did.
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We don't score top 6 goals - 8 clubs have more goals.
We don't restrict goals scored - 14 clubs have conceded less.
Our GD is virually flat and exactly in keeping with our 11th place.

We have a very big squad before even looking at youngsters.

It is undoubtedly true that we are only 4 points off the play offs (given our poor GD).

Last season after 28 matches on Jan 27th, we were 6th in the table, 2 points behind the team in 3rd place, Watford and 15 points behind 2nd place Sheff U.
We had just won 3 out of 4 and had taken 29 points from the last 14 matches. We had momentum.
We went on to get 20 points in the next 10 matches from then and continued that momentum scoring progressively more goals. We took 49 points from that 24 match run.

This season we do not have momentum and look nothing like mounting a challenge.

Injuries have been an issue, so too losing players to international duty.
But our squad has lots of numbers. They're just not top 6 quality.
 
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