Just drove past a packed Preston Park

Jimstewart

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You can drive a short distance within your area to access open space. That is in the guidelines. So I could drive from tollesby to Stewart Park and go for a walk. Why anyone would have a problem with that is completely beyond me.
 

Same_as_before

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I was on the beach at Scarborough last year there were 8.

If you had taken a photo side on the beach looked packed, if you took it from above you would see that every group were in fact socially distanced.
 

Ingleby_Flash

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You can drive a short distance within your area to access open space. That is in the guidelines. So I could drive from tollesby to Stewart Park and go for a walk. Why anyone would have a problem with that is completely beyond me.
And no one has defined ‘local’ or a ‘short distance’ so its up to everyone to make their own interpretation, Boris clearly interpreted 7 miles as a short distance, it’s impossible to argue with that and no one has the right to take the moral high ground. As someone who has driven 30,000+ business miles a year for the last 30 plus years, then Teesside is definitely local’.

Also that adds up to about a million miles, no accidents, no breakdowns, nothing, the risk caused by a drive to the beach in comparison is so minuscule it would be absurd to point it out. We need to exercise social distancing and common sense.
 

BoroFur

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Good ain't it?

I especially enjoyed the post that sounded like if you didn't have a back garden you hadn't worked hard enough. 😂
Not so enjoyable was the post unequivocally stating that older people should be grateful to the younger generation for the sacrifices made to protect them. The smelliest crock of **** in a long time.
 

Alvez_48

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Crazy thought... Maybe if golf, tennis and football were allowed people wouldn't be having to 'cram' in the local parks to get a bit of sanity.

Maybe if 'non-essential' shops were open we wouldn't all be ramming into the supermarket at 12 on a Saturday.

It's sunny out, the fresh air does you good and the sunshine tops up that vitamin D. Enjoy it because you know it will be Baltic again before spring really gets going.

It's not even worth responding to the 'you're killing people walking in a crowded park crowd' people have had enough of that nonsense.
 

GazC_MFC

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Crazy thought... Maybe if golf, tennis and football were allowed people wouldn't be having to 'cram' in the local parks to get a bit of sanity.

Maybe if 'non-essential' shops were open we wouldn't all be ramming into the supermarket at 12 on a Saturday.

It's sunny out, the fresh air does you good and the sunshine tops up that vitamin D. Enjoy it because you know it will be Baltic again before spring really gets going.

It's not even worth responding to the 'you're killing people walking in a crowded park crowd' people have had enough of that nonsense.

Exactly, I doubt we’ll be seeing a spike from everyone going out meeting up

it’s interesting that people turn their attention to groups of people, these people will be meeting up whether it’s in a public space or indoors
 

DCI_Gene_Hunt

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You can drive a short distance within your area to access open space. That is in the guidelines. So I could drive from tollesby to Stewart Park and go for a walk. Why anyone would have a problem with that is completely beyond me.
Because people want to be morally superior to other people
I think most people understand you can drive short distances to partake of exercise. I certainly don't see that as an issue.

What I do see as an issue is when large groups of people gather together ignoring the guidelines of social distancing/meeting up with other people.

I'd say there are more people who believe the rules don't apply to them or they think they understand the consequences more and have some kind of belief that its ok for them to do what ever they want and like to tell us about it are the one's who need to feel morally superior.
 

Ingleby_Flash

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I wish I’d kept the article from the Times last week where one of the governments scientific advisors was saying there was no increase in transmission from all of the beach crowding and BLM protests last year. And I thought we were following the science 🤔
 

FlapJacks

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apologies the link is The Sun and the images can look worse due to long range camera work but hardly anyone is wearing masks which is alarming
That picture of Hove seafront is very misleading - it's a popular shot to take when the local paper here needs a "look at the crowds" story.

The area is very popular with local people, many of whom do wear masks. The walkway is very wide and avoiding people is pretty straightforward.
 

Borobarmy

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I wish I’d kept the article from the Times last week where one of the governments scientific advisors was saying there was no increase in transmission from all of the beach crowding and BLM protests last year. And I thought we were following the science 🤔
I read that Ingleby . If I remember rightly it was a professor Woolhouse from SAGE . There is not much risk from open air but he did say there were ‘ pinch points ‘ which were constricted spaces like car parks etc . I suppose albeit seeming extreme ( even silly ) but even an ice cream van could be one of them .

nb I’ll put on my grim reaper costume and stand next to the ice cream van
 

Borobarmy

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That picture of Hove seafront is very misleading - it's a popular shot to take when the local paper here needs a "look at the crowds" story.

The area is very popular with local people, many of whom do wear masks. The walkway is very wide and avoiding people is pretty straightforward.
Cheers
 

Jimstewart

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I think most people understand you can drive short distances to partake of exercise. I certainly don't see that as an issue.

What I do see as an issue is when large groups of people gather together ignoring the guidelines of social distancing/meeting up with other people.

I'd say there are more people who believe the rules don't apply to them or they think they understand the consequences more and have some kind of belief that its ok for them to do what ever they want and like to tell us about it are the one's who need to feel morally superior.
The first few posts on here were about cars in car parks and stupid selfish people in parks. The OP certainly seems to think it’s an issue. As does the poster that mentioned the car park at Stewart Park.
 

GazC_MFC

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I think most people understand you can drive short distances to partake of exercise. I certainly don't see that as an issue.

What I do see as an issue is when large groups of people gather together ignoring the guidelines of social distancing/meeting up with other people.

I'd say there are more people who believe the rules don't apply to them or they think they understand the consequences more and have some kind of belief that its ok for them to do what ever they want and like to tell us about it are the one's who need to feel morally superior.
I thinks it’s lines like ‘you have no reason to drive to exercise’
 

Borobarmy

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The first few posts on here were about cars in car parks and stupid selfish people in parks. The OP certainly seems to think it’s an issue. As does the poster that mentioned the car park at Stewart Park.
And ? If I didn’t think it was an issue I wouldn’t of commented
 

dooderooni

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A lad I work with was off just after Christmas having contracted Covid and it's his belief that everyone will get it eventually. The other night I saw him shake hands with one of the lads that he usually hangs around with. If you had a checklist of do's and don'ts then I'm sure they'd have a lot more red flags against their names.
I'd say he's typical of a lot of people who struggle to equate their behaviour with the potential consequences and to them a day out at the park will probably be just part of their inadvertent behaviour that increase their chances of infection.
I'm sure people have read why I'm a bit a rule Nazi when it comes to my personal behaviour and I understand that people with kids especially can't be like me, but I'd argue that a large proportion of infections come from those who don't 'get' why we have to be careful still.
Thankfully the daily figures indicate that we are heading in the right direction and the impact of these rule breakers, be they inadvertent, deliberate or simply unthinking, won't be as harmful to the wider population.
 

Jimstewart

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And it’s not against any rules to drive your car to a park, park it in the car park and go and use the park. If it were against the rules to drive there the car park would not be available. The park and its car park is open for a reason and most people would feel it is perfectly reasonable that it is. You also pointed out that people were not wearing masks when there is no requirement for them to do so.
 

Jimstewart

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A lad I work with was off just after Christmas having contracted Covid and it's his belief that everyone will get it eventually. The other night I saw him shake hands with one of the lads that he usually hangs around with. If you had a checklist of do's and don'ts then I'm sure they'd have a lot more red flags against their names.
I'd say he's typical of a lot of people who struggle to equate their behaviour with the potential consequences and to them a day out at the park will probably be just part of their inadvertent behaviour that increase their chances of infection.
I'm sure people have read why I'm a bit a rule Nazi when it comes to my personal behaviour and I understand that people with kids especially can't be like me, but I'd argue that a large proportion of infections come from those who don't 'get' why we have to be careful still.
Thankfully the daily figures indicate that we are heading in the right direction and the impact of these rule breakers, be they inadvertent, deliberate or simply unthinking, won't be as harmful to the wider population.
Why is going to the park a part of inadvertent behaviour?
 
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