Just a thought about all these strikes

If someone is paying £600 p month rent for a 20k house they could afford to buy it. Sounds doubtful.
 
Millbrook said:
If someone is paying £600 p month rent for a 20k house they could afford to buy it. Sounds doubtful.
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No,, the system is loaded for the buy to let market, The banks wouldnt lend to the renter. Its simple to fix really. But it wont be because everything is geared for a rich and poor world. its all about control, the working class are consumers, to be charged for everything for the benefit of a few.
 
Fridgeman said:
Just reading through the tones of the thread and it does feel like people have been offended or feel patronised but as I have said that was not my intention I feel like I can see the struggles people are having daily and to be honest it’s devastating and depressing at the same time but the scariest thing for me is that there are no signs of anything improving, I might have overlooked the complexity but my motivation was putting it out in the open that something is very wrong in our society
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Nobody seems to be offended or feel patronised. People just disagree with the point you're making. Both in terms of expecting people to strike for a political cause (which, as people said, would make the strikes illegal). And with the mechanism you're proposing to improve living standards.

I don't know why you're jumping to claiming people are offended instead of discussing your point further.
 
I don't think it's true that houses are selling for 20k either. There will be one or two that go up for auction at that price, but in those circumstances they will need a lot of work doing. It's definitely not a common occurance and almost certainly not the case that houses will be selling at that price that people can just move in to.

The buy to let market needs stamping out though. That I agree with.
 
Fridgeman said:
Wouldn’t it be nice if instead of asking for pay rises they were instead insisting on reform of the tax system demanding lower taxes for all low earners ,proper change (real savings on tax)at the moment lower earners spend 70% of their income in tax in one form or another is there any wonder people are struggling and can you imagine the support the strikers would have from the lower paid public.

A couple of ideas
Raise the tax threshold to at 20k
Lower council tax ( based on earnings) raised for the higher earners accordingly
Reduce fuel duty and cancel the planned 23%rise coming in march
Cap house rents

People should be able to afford to live and save if they work instead of the system we currently have which is about to implode
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The issue there is that it still wont adress the inceasing wealth of the super rich.

I'm not talking about the better off middle classes, but the very wealthy that have become even wealthier over the last 15 years and yet they still pay little tax at best.

There is only so much wealth within the system and it needs to be re-distributed more evenly.
 
Fridge man, if your genuine in you questions then welcome to more and more enlightenment.

Why do the current process and systems seem unfair, even cruel ? Its because they are. Read some better media. The guardian is a start. Private Eye. The Atlantic. Read some of the political threads on here and Google anything you don't understand.

Think of our system a game of monopoly. A lot of people see us approaching the day the boards kicked over.

Try to stay as moderate as you can , in doing that you might see our current govt ( 13 years, not just the most recent bunch) as the extreme capitalists and neoliberalism they are.They are now wanting to white wash Truss!!!.

Get hold of a book called " The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist " it spell out the evil of the capitalist system and is a good read too. There's no perfect system. But uncontrolled consumerism and capitalism is not something we should want for our kids.
 
People are poor because of the amount they have to spend on a roof over their head. The biggest tax people have to pay is a generational one. This will not stop until the number of people this disadvantages outweighs the number of people who gain from it.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
The issue there is that it still wont adress the inceasing wealth of the super rich.

I'm not talking about the better off middle classes, but the very wealthy that have become even wealthier over the last 15 years and yet they still pay little tax at best.

There is only so much wealth within the system and it needs to be re-distributed more evenly.
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This is actually exactly my point reforming the tax system so low earners keep more of their earnings which I mentioned using the 20k personal allowance as an example would effectively give approximately another 8k of tax free earnings to everyone but then take the same amount that that would cost of the wealthy through higher taxes for them

I am no expert so the sums probably wouldn’t add up but at some point you could tax the wealthy and institutions that have more money than sense and redistribute
 
rbmfc1985 said:
I don't think it's true that houses are selling for 20k either. There will be one or two that go up for auction at that price, but in those circumstances they will need a lot of work doing. It's definitely not a common occurance and almost certainly not the case that houses will be selling at that price that people can just move in to.

The buy to let market needs stamping out though. That I agree with.
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I have been a member for a good few years starting on the previous forum I don’t really do social media as I find it a bit intrusive I will finish off on this thread be saying I have only posted with good intention and haven’t made anything up I hope nobody took any offence I wish everyone well
Society needs goodwill and good luck and I wish everybody both utb
 
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