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To add I don't see an upsurge in cases in France, Spain, Germany or Italy in the numbers, though there do appear to be a couple of weird statistical anomalies in France and Spain. Whether it is too early yet who knows.
 
This will be interesting because one of the ‘5 tests’ is we will relax lockdown if we are confident there won’t be a 2nd spike.

Arguably of course the recent daily increase v last week could be used. I can hear it now -
‘Deaths were already on the increase before we allowed the latest relaxation’

Already lost count of the amount of people having barbq’s this weekend where there will be significantly more than 6 people round.

Ah, but the 2nd wave part of the 5 tests was subtly changed by adding the bit that says ‘won’t overwhelm the NHS‘. So, it now allows for a 2nd wave, they just don’t feel the NHS will be overwhelmed. They have achieved it partly through many victims sadly dying freeing up beds ready for a 2nd wave the Government seem determined, some might say hell bent on creating.

I will continue trying to be careful, social distance. Its all been rushed through to take focus off Cummings and pretend they, the Government are really nice blokes after all. I wont be having or attending bbq parties. I imagine the police will be busy this week shutting down garden parties where many dummies will party like its 1999.

I don’t think this virus is going away anytime soon. The R rate will rise i would guess and we will have localised shut downs rather than national ones thats all. It’s a shambolic way to behave imho. Part of me believes that whilst the virus doesn’t overtly discriminate, I think indirectly it might do looking at the wider picture. This Government seems content judging its behaviours, to risk letting the at risk groups, the poor and the less well off to die Indirectly through its actions, for the time being at least.
 
Ah yes, the devil, as ever in the detail.
I get that thrown at me a lot in discussions - ‘they succeeded in not having the NHS over run’ FFS. Bigger picture springs to mind.

Enjoyed reading your other points too. The ‘social cleansing’ (my words not yours) particularly chilling in the light of the decision makers father’s views - ‘the best people have the best genes’
That’s DC’s father btw
 
One of the barmiest posts I've ever read.

BBC 100% anti government? In the same week a newsnight presenters got the boot for daring to criticise. Can only assume you formed these opinions about the BBC 40 odd years ago and haven't watched since.

One of the barmiest posts Supers, you cannot have read too many.
As for the BBC not being anti government. I have difficulty in thinking of a BBC regular who supports a government who won an 80 seat majority about 6 months ago. And if they are on the side of this government why would BJ even think of cutting the licence fee purse strings?
 
One of the barmiest posts Supers, you cannot have read too many.
As for the BBC not being anti government. I have difficulty in thinking of a BBC regular who supports a government who won an 80 seat majority about 6 months ago. And if they are on the side of this government why would BJ even think of cutting the licence fee purse strings?

It's not the BBC's remit to support the Tories. Maybe that's where you're getting confused.
 
The Con men won the election because they rightly judged the mood of the people and "Got Brexit done". They haven't managed that yet.Six months is even longer than a week and that was a long time in Politics. Our absentee landlord is now exhibiting Trumpian qualities with his "Don't tell them Pike" answers to questions.
It depends on how long our memories are as to what happens to our esteemed leaders
 
The Con men won the election because they rightly judged the mood of the people and "Got Brexit done". They haven't managed that yet.Six months is even longer than a week and that was a long time in Politics. Our absentee landlord is now exhibiting Trumpian qualities with his "Don't tell them Pike" answers to questions.
It depends on how long our memories are as to what happens to our esteemed leaders

Trumpian qualities with his "Don't tell them Pike"

:ROFLMAO: Excellent.
 
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"We are trying our best in times of shortage of equipment and lack of staff trained to deal with such a disaster."


that'll be the decade of austerity imposed by the liberals/tories and then the tories/DUP. with the throat-cutting of public services, the haemorrhaging away of financial support for local councils and the significant lack of investment in training doctors and nurses, by slashing to the bone and using staff via agencies (the extortionate agency rates are an insult to tax payers) and dedicated staff having to work 'bank' shifts to put food on their tables.

don't blame me or others we didn't vote for them or any of that, sadly its took a national disaster of public health and personal financial loss for some to realise.
 
One of the barmiest posts Supers, you cannot have read too many.
As for the BBC not being anti government. I have difficulty in thinking of a BBC regular who supports a government who won an 80 seat majority about 6 months ago. And if they are on the side of this government why would BJ even think of cutting the licence fee purse strings?

I've posted this list on here before:

The BBCs political programming in recent years:

1) Showed the wrong footage of Boris at the cenotaph to avoid his embarrassment
2) Edited out the sound of the audience laughing at Boris in the debates
3) Didn't bother getting Boris in for an interview with Andrew Neil in the run up to the 2019 election
4) Had the host of Question Time revving up the audience to attack the Labour representative - who also happened to be the MP that routinely receives more hate mail and death threats than any other MP
5) Coordinated having a Labour member of the shadow cabinet resign their position live on air
6) Edited footage of Corbyn answering a question about armed police responses to change the context
7) When discussing Corbyn on BBC News showed his image with an edited in backdrop of Moscow
8) BBC Politics Correspondent tweeting a lie that a Labour activist punched a tory aide
9) BBC Politics Correspondent illegally reporting on postal votes a day before the 2019 election
10) BBC Politics Correspondent doxxing a geezer in a hospital who dared to have a go at Boris, when Boris said he wasn't there with press - while Press were clearly stood nearby and filming the whole exchange

Doubt you can offer any similar examples going the other way?

As for your question, reverse the order and you've got your answer. Boris and the tories keep threatening to cut the licence fee, cut the number of channels etc, and that's why the BBC have fallen in to line over the last decade.

Genuinely, if you think the BBC is biased to the left, you must just never have watched for at least a decade. You're objectively wrong.
 
"We are trying our best in times of shortage of equipment and lack of staff trained to deal with such a disaster."


that'll be the decade of austerity imposed by the liberals/tories and then the tories/DUP. with the throat-cutting of public services, the haemorrhaging away of financial support for local councils and the significant lack of investment in training doctors and nurses,

Yup, it's definitely either that or Corbyn's fault. I guess we will all have to make up our mind with the help of some clever meme's from Britain First.
 
Like the way the two Koreas are lumped together for sake of argument. (y)
Like comparing Nazi Germany with Merkel's Germany because they are both Germany.
 
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