Jacob Greaves

You don't pay a premium for left footed players, you just have a smaller talent pool to choose from. Doesn't matter if you play overlapping centre backs or a basic 4-4-2, left footed players on the left just make sense.

It's like when GS played Trippier at left wing back for England, it just doesn't work
Yet he insists on playing Harry 'my left foot is for standing on only' as the left centre back
 
A golden thread?
the concept that instead of what we have endured where every manager comes in with a completely different philosophy and therefore half the players at the club, including U23 and youth are never going to play for that manager, you create a club philosophy and weave it through your entire club, from U12 youth coaching through to first team. This means it is much more likely that an U12 today will have the skills and experience of playing in a manner that the first team will in 10 years. He can be coached with that philosophy in mind.

We need to adopt a philosophy as a club that persists beyond any manager, and adopt it at all levels in the club.
 
Yet he insists on playing Harry 'my left foot is for standing on only' as the left centre back
To be fair there is a real dearth of even moderate quality premier league english centre backs, let alone left footed ones.

None of our current CBs in the prem would get into the squad with Ferdinand and Terry, or even the Adams and Keown or Wright and Walker sides. We have low quality CBs in this country right now.
 
Not that b***ks again :ROFLMAO:
It is true though, chopping and changing styles is expensive, because you shed players like there's no tomorrow. If you're gonna coach youth players they need to have the right abilities. Do you want defenders who are good on teh ball, or meatheads that head it clear and are a danger at corners? Do you want midfielders that are about ball retention, that are primarily athletes, or progressive ball players? You need to prime your production line. You need to tell your scouts what to look for when they are going around the non-league clubs.

If you don't, you are going to waste, time, effort, money, resources, and we've got to stop doing that.
 
The other point is Hull have invested significantly in their squad, they look a better shout than us for top 6 at the present, so he may not be desperate to move. I think he will sign a new contract unless one of the new PL teams come in for him.
 
The other point is Hull have invested significantly in their squad, they look a better shout than us for top 6 at the present, so he may not be desperate to move. I think he will sign a new contract unless one of the new PL teams come in for him.
Better shout than us? Really.
It's the fact he's local to there and his dad played for them, that is fueling his loyalty more than anything and definitely not their ambitions or chances of promotion over us.
 
Better shout than us? Really.
It's the fact he's local to there and his dad played for them, that is fueling his loyalty more than anything and definitely not their ambitions or chances of promotion over us.
Have you seen the amount of signings they have made.
 
Living close to Hull and knowing a few of their season card holders, they really do rate this kid and will hang on to him with dear life unless a silly over the odds bid comes in. The regime has completely changed now that Allam has gone, and the Turkish Geezer appears to know his ‘delight’ when it comes to business. I would be pleased but doubt very much that this will happen. Come on Boro, prove me wrong!
 
It is true though, chopping and changing styles is expensive, because you shed players like there's no tomorrow. If you're gonna coach youth players they need to have the right abilities. Do you want defenders who are good on teh ball, or meatheads that head it clear and are a danger at corners? Do you want midfielders that are about ball retention, that are primarily athletes, or progressive ball players? You need to prime your production line. You need to tell your scouts what to look for when they are going around the non-league clubs.

If you don't, you are going to waste, time, effort, money, resources, and we've got to stop doing that.
Overall I agree, but it is an ideology that will always require pragmatism.
Buying the right experience, or quality to boost you at a point in time should not be avoided just because you want to develop all your players from young, or are intent on moneyballing everything.

We don't have a LCB, we don't have quality forwards.
So long as we buy to fit the system, then spending big on clear potential or existing quality should not be taboo.
Gyokeres and Greaves yes please.
 
Overall I agree, but it is an ideology that will always require pragmatism.
Buying the right experience, or quality to boost you at a point in time should not be avoided just because you want to develop all your players from young, or are intent on moneyballing everything.

We don't have a LCB, we don't have quality forwards.
So long as we buy to fit the system, then spending big on clear potential or existing quality should not be taboo.
Gyokeres and Greaves yes please.
I agree completely, the issue is will Gibson throw that kind of money around, those two players will cost north of 20m, maybe 25 and we will still need 3 more minimum
 
I agree completely, the issue is will Gibson throw that kind of money around, those two players will cost north of 20m, maybe 25 and we will still need 3 more minimum
Yep agree, so 3 more loans, or 2 and modest investment in prospects.
My fear is Gibson will freeze like he did in the summer of 2016.
 
I would really like this deal to happen. Something about him just screams ‘very big money move in a couple of years’. I think he’s one that we wouldn’t lose money on, even if we spent over the odds bringing him in.
 
no narrative here, I called out that Lenihan was culpable for their goal. He obviously got outmuscled by Dike too near the end, but I'll forgive him in that most players would and he would have been exhausted first game of the season at that point
Bloody hell, he's had a stinker. I was thinking about the pass he forced into midfield and the one where he got too tight and go rolled by the forward.

Im not just talking about him in a left sided role, I'm referring to how everyone believes Lenihan is better after seeing him play 1 competitive match and very few giving an objective view of his performance. I felt being a leader affected him negatively in the second half as he was trying to hard to drag us back into the game and made too many mistakes. I don't think that's a centre half's job.
 
Overall I agree, but it is an ideology that will always require pragmatism.
Buying the right experience, or quality to boost you at a point in time should not be avoided just because you want to develop all your players from young, or are intent on moneyballing everything.

We don't have a LCB, we don't have quality forwards.
So long as we buy to fit the system, then spending big on clear potential or existing quality should not be taboo.
Gyokeres and Greaves yes please.
Too expensive
 
Bloody hell, he's had a stinker. I was thinking about the pass he forced into midfield and the one where he got too tight and go rolled by the forward.

Im not just talking about him in a left sided role, I'm referring to how everyone believes Lenihan is better after seeing him play 1 competitive match and very few giving an objective view of his performance. I felt being a leader affected him negatively in the second half as he was trying to hard to drag us back into the game and made too many mistakes. I don't think that's a centre half's job.
Lenihan was one of the top performers in the league last season. as for Saturday he made some mistakes, but didn't have a stinker. He won more headers than anyone else in the championship on Saturday. I think he was a bit too eager to prove himself and playing against one of the play off favourites, in fact could be dark horses for auto promotion. They have some excellent players particularly in the attacking third.
 
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