Beverleyred
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Reminds me of when we signed Paul Merson. It was well advertised that he had drinking and gambling problems. So no surprise that Robbo bought him a pint of lager then bet him a fiver that he wouldn’t drink it!!
They could always sack him couldnt they, but they wont, because he's worth more as a commodity than it is to take the moral high ground.The real problem is his club ( if they decide to) can only fine him a maximum of 4 weeks wages, which is only what the PFA allows. They should be able to find him the entirety of the ban , then that is a real restraint on maybe doing this type of betting. At the moment hes basically on gardening leave on full pay wondering what to do with his time, I would end up gambling in that situation.
Depends doesn't it? He won't be match fit, but there's nothing stopping him training on his own in his own time presumably.It might be an 8 month ban but it’s effectively longer than that with the ban on training. When he comes back he won’t have had any pre season so will need to time to get up to speed. He is effectively out for the whole of next season.
I believe the ban on training with the club does not run for the whole of the ban. I think he can train 2 months before the end of banDepends doesn't it? He won't be match fit, but there's nothing stopping him training on his own in his own time presumably.
So if he's professional enough about it and maybe pays for a private personal trainer etc he could be in pretty good shape come the end of the ban. 2 or 3 matches for the under 23s and he'd be good to go.
Thank you for providing factual information rather than the sound of baying wolves.Think the key information is as follows:
- 126 bets were in matches in a competition in which Toney's club had participated in or were eligible to participate in that season.
- Of those 126 bets, 29 bets involved clubs Toney was registered with or on loan with at the time.
- 16 of those 29 bets were on Toney's team to win 15 different matches - and Toney played in 11 of these games and was an unused substitute in another.
- 13 bets of the 29 bets were on Toney's own team to lose in seven different matches between August 22, 2017 and March 3, 2018 - but Toney did not play in any of those matches
- 11 of the 13 bets were against Newcastle while Toney was on loan at another club.
- The other two bets related to a game between Wigan vs Aston Villa while Toney was on loan at Wigan but he was not part of the squad.
You can’t draw that conclusion I’m afraid.I was half listening to this on sky sports this morning.
From what they were saying - I don’t believe he was betting on his team to lose when he was involved in the game. Therefore he wasn’t “match fixing”.
Especially with this alleged second phone lurking in the background.You can’t draw that conclusion I’m afraid.
He may have influenced others in the team, may even have paid them. Not saying it happened but we don’t know it didn’t happen.
He can train from September, he’s banned from all activity for 4 monthsIt might be an 8 month ban but it’s effectively longer than that with the ban on training. When he comes back he won’t have had any pre season so will need to time to get up to speed. He is effectively out for the whole of next season.
Now the details are out I can honestly see Brentford cutting their loses and sacking him…. Let’s face it would you want someone like him int he dressing room? I know I wouldn’t
No it isn’t.That’s not betting or gambling that’s match fixing pure and simple.
So now we are going to 'prosecute' people on the basis that they may have done something wrong because they can't prove a negative.You can’t draw that conclusion I’m afraid.
He may have influenced others in the team, may even have paid them. Not saying it happened but we don’t know it didn’t happen.
I certainly can draw that conclusion. In fact I already have.You can’t draw that conclusion I’m afraid.
He may have influenced others in the team, may even have paid them. Not saying it happened but we don’t know it didn’t happen.
It was something like 6 bets a season on teams he played for. Hardly the signs of someone unable to control their gambling.Thank you for providing factual information rather than the sound of baying wolves.
This was no where near match fixing and looks very much that he was addicted to gambling.
I don't follow your point.It was something like 6 bets a season on teams he played for. Hardly the signs of someone unable to control their gambling.