Is The Queen is Dead the best Smiths album?

[atypical_boro]

It's definitely a grey area/personal choice thing. MJ I never had any interest in but all artists are flawed and you can't boycott everyone with a character fault. But for me the Smiths singer represents pure racism and I just can't stomach that.

We’ve talked about this before Harry. See I can’t stop comparing his actions to MJ’s and despite his stupid, attention-seeking opinions on certain subjects, he’s no paedophile.

 

[Wiseman_Vaughn]

It's definitely a grey area/personal choice thing. MJ I never had any interest in but all artists are flawed and you can't boycott everyone with a character fault. But for me the Smiths singer represents pure racism and I just can't stomach that.

Interesting. I’ve never read any of his racist comments, though I have read his book (which was great). I personally would not stop listening to an artists work because if things they had said or believe… mainly because I wouldn’t have much to listen to except the new seekers.

 

[Chutney]

Back to the original question, it's a yes given the caveat, but I'd ask why Hatful can't be considered. I know the "why" but the fact the disclaimer is even needed is an admission that for the vast majority Hatful is the favourite.

Good article covering the very subject here...

The Quietus

 

[atypical_boro]

Back to the original question, it's a yes given the caveat, but I'd ask why Hatful can't be considered. I know the "why" but the fact the disclaimer is even needed is an admission that for the vast majority Hatful is the favourite.

Good article covering the very subject here...

The Quietus

Maybe the OP should just retitle to say “the Smiths best studio album” and remove any confusion.

 

[Brian Marwood]

It most certainly is in my opinion and in my top three albums of all time.

However, if memory serves, all the band members thought Strangeways was a much better album in their opinion.

 

[EuropeTwice]

It probably is the best but I like Meat is Murder. Underrated I think.

Same for me

 

[atypical_boro]

Back to the original question, it's a yes given the caveat, but I'd ask why Hatful can't be considered. I know the "why" but the fact the disclaimer is even needed is an admission that for the vast majority Hatful is the favourite.

Good article covering the very subject here...

The Quietus

Can I have Rank? Or the best of the Smiths party 1?

 

[Chutney]

Can I have Rank? Or the best of the Smiths party 1?

Have what you like. I don't care.

 

[The Card Cheat]

Same for me

As I’m reading this thread my 16 year old son is playing “The Headmasters Ritual” on his guitar from that very album, so its definitely got some longevity!

 

[Lemmy_kilmister]

Love the Troy Tate tapes too.

Love the stuff nobody hardly mentions as well...Jeane and Asleep in particular.

 

[changingman]

Love the Troy Tate tapes too.

Love the stuff nobody hardly mentions as well...Jeane and Asleep in particular.

Half a person is a criminal underrated song too. Glad I got to finally see Morrissey play it a couple of years back

As for studio albums I'd probably go:
Qod
Debut
Strange ways
MiM

 

[Linny]

As I’m reading this thread my 16 year old son is playing “The Headmasters Ritual” on his guitar from that very album, so its definitely got some longevity!

Great song and one of my favourite intros!

 

[The_Lizards_Jumpers]

However, if memory serves, all the band members thought Strangeways was a much better album in their opinion.

Yep, both Morrissey and Marr have said that Strangeways is their favourite.

I actually like The Smiths, but the Troy Tate sessions version which pretty much got scrapped and appeared on bootlegs many years later. It's so raw and unpolished and really feels like a band finding their feet, but of course being bestowed with the genius they had.

 

[Derby_Red]

Meat Is Murder for me - taken me a while to come round to it, but that's the one.