Is Scottish independence all but a formality now

HundredRoom said:
Oh thanks for the info. And what does the GB in GBP stand for ?

Oh and by the way . No they fekin cant. As has frequently been stated over the years
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HundredRoom said:
Can you name me a non EU member that uses the Euro as legal tender ?
Scottish independence doe not equal EU membership
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Any country can use whatever currency they want as legal tender. There are several countries that choose to use the US Dollar for example.

However, if you don't have your own central bank, you have no control over your exchange rate, no ability to set interest rates or to have an independent monetary policy.
 
Billy Horner said:
However, if you don't have your own central bank, you have no control over your exchange rate, no ability to set interest rates or to have an independent monetary policy.
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Thankyou - put better than I ever could

but I would add

- and hence no real independence in fact quite the opposite


Those that use the US dollar have no faith in their governments to control money.
 
HundredRoom said:
Thankyou - put better than I ever could

but I would add

- and hence no real independence in fact quite the opposite


Those that use the US dollar have no faith in their governments to control money.
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Don't necessarily disagree (well, apart from the reason why some countries use the Dollar). I was just correcting the claim that Scotland couldn't use either the Pound or the Euro as their currency. They could even use the Indian Rupee if they wanted!
 
The next time they have a referendum, the EU could be a lot less attractive proposition for Scotland. We could end up having to have a UK - wide referendum in order to move Scotland on.
 
The currency issue was significant during the referendum in 2014. The SNP couldn't make a case for it. How can you be independent if your main bank is English?

I work with loads of Scots and there's no huge push for another independence vote. One or two are ardent but the rest not so bothered.
 
Nero said:
The currency issue was significant during the referendum in 2014. The SNP couldn't make a case for it. How can you be independent if your main bank is English?

I work with loads of Scots and there's no huge push for another independence vote. One or two are ardent but the rest not so bothered.
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You can't align things if the central bank is outside of the territory, of course. But Scotland's economy is strong now, so there may be a central bank here. But Nicola (who is the outstanding politician in the UK now, whether you agree with her policies or not) is working on the EU so she'll be able to offer EU membership, the Euro and closer political alliances with Europe as the vision for leaving the UK.

GBP = Great British Pound Sterling.
 
I am personally all for Scottish Independence . Out of Sterling in say 3 months, pay off their share of government debt including the Banking crisis, give them the RBS, full tariff on Whisky, say a £500 border crossing fee, yes I am all for it.

I am sick of them bleating We Want, not once saying what they will give .

PAYE office away from Cambuslang and Hamilton, submarines to built in Teesside, ... Yes go for it.

There is no way they could have paid for this crisis on their own, but good luck to them.

The bog walls in the factories I worked in proved what a biggoted nasty group of people they can be.
Lanark a lovely cross section of a community.

It's amazing how popular Sturgeon is outside Scotland. Try reading the local papers in say Sterling and find out their view
 
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Looking at the populations of a few independent nations around the North Sea area, can't really see any reason why the Scots couldn't make a go of it. They have some very capable people when all's said and done.

Scotland 5.454m

Ireland 4.904, Norway 5.368, Finland 5.598, Denmark 5.806.
 
Sturgeon is horrible in every way.
I don’t think an independent Scotland is inevitable at all.
I’ve long thought Ireland will be united long before Scotland is “independent”.
 
zorro_mfc said:
given how London centric the Westminster govt have been During this crisis with wales also going their own way on advising their population.

is Scottish independence now all but a formality ?
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I think it is inevitable they will cease to be governed by Westminster. Probably some sort of fudge to remain part of the uk and share defence and one or two other areas.
 
England pays Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland £750 million PER WEEK - that's around £3 Billion per month.... or £36 Billion a year

And what does England get out of this union?

Does England have our own parliament / devolved government? No
Free university education? No
Free prescriptions? No
Lower retirement ages? No

A part from the Anti-English sentiment among the other nations, particularly from Scotland... I can't see what England is getting from the Union

Let's have our English Independence, let them go their own way and we'll spend that extra 36 BILLION per year on England
 
Juninho10 said:
England pays Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland £750 million PER WEEK - that's around £3 Billion per month.... or £36 Billion a year

And what does England get out of this union?

Does England have our own parliament / devolved government? No
Free university education? No
Free prescriptions? No
Lower retirement ages? No

A part from the Anti-English sentiment among the other nations, particularly from Scotland... I can't see what England is getting from the Union

Let's have our English Independence, let them go their own way and we'll spend that extra 36 BILLION per year on England
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I'm fairly sure if we had English independence then we would have to leave House of Commons behind as that is where the UK Government sits and England would no longer be part of UK - now that would cause a few good arguments!
 
indeedido said:
Sturgeon is horrible in every way.
I don’t think an independent Scotland is inevitable at all.
I’ve long thought Ireland will be united long before Scotland is “independent”.
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She's really wise though.

"Just because you test negative and show no symptoms doesn't mean you don't have the virus"

Yes. She spoke those words.
 
RandySavage said:
She's really wise though.

"Just because you test negative and show no symptoms doesn't mean you don't have the virus"

Yes. She spoke those words.
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As have the Chief Medical Officer and various other scientists. It relates to the fact that there is a known problem with false negatives during the incubation period.
 
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