India Covid Situation - Big Improvement

Zoophonic said:
Right wing conspiracy bells ringing with your comments Evil

www.usatoday.com

Fact check: U.N. Agenda 21/2030 'New World Order' is not a real document

A claim that the United Nations plans to create a global government, military and currency by 2030 has been debunked
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I was almost believing the verity of that article until I got to the last line....

Our fact check work is supported in part by a grant from Facebook.

...ah, that bastion of truth and free-speech
 
Evil said:
I need to speak to someone?

I've never thought more clearly in my life chap.

Look up Agenda 2030, originally Event 201 then come back to me.
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UN Agenda 2030?
GOAL 1: No Poverty
GOAL 2: Zero Hunger
GOAL 3: Good Health and Well-being
GOAL 4: Quality Education
GOAL 5: Gender Equality
GOAL 6: Clean Water and Sanitation
GOAL 7: Affordable and Clean Energy
GOAL 8: Decent Work and Economic Growth
GOAL 9: Industry, Innovation and Infrastructure
GOAL 10: Reduced Inequality
GOAL 11: Sustainable Cities and Communities
GOAL 12: Responsible Consumption and Production
GOAL 13: Climate Action
GOAL 14: Life Below Water
GOAL 15: Life on Land
GOAL 16: Peace and Justice Strong Institutions
GOAL 17: Partnerships to achieve the Goal

What's bad about that? Seems good to me? What of that are you against, and why?
What's that got to do with India and countries under-reporting Covid?
You mentioned something about an election audit, what's that got to do with anything?
You think the UN is against Trump, yet based themselves about 100m from his old house, (The white one) hiding in plain site huh?

Event 201, 3.5 whole hours of a tabletop exercise, I spend more time than that quoting on installing someones $hit pipe down the street.
Preparing for a pandemic is wise, always was, and it's always happened to one degree or another. A pandemic was a certainty, and we had already nearly had some big problems with SARS and MERS, both coronaviruses. We will have others too, some will be coronaviruses, some won't, again this is a certainty.

Maybe if the world had took this seriously, or had it been earlier (or they paid attention to the ones a year earlier than that), then the impact could have been severely limited, instead, ours and other governments played dumb for months (some still are), and denied reality, was that all part of the plan? Doesn't seem to fit in well with it. What's do you think was the aim of the plan? Why? We're those who handled it well, just not in on it, or did they decide it wasn't for them and then not say a word about it?

Are the doctors and nurses in on it? I know quite a few of them, I don't think they're liars, do you?
 
Andy, doesn't the fact that this thread starts

OP: Why am I wet?
Me: Because it's raining.
Other person: because the government (op thumbs up)

indicate to you that it's either a wind up, or something not worth spending your time on. :D
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Andy, doesn't the fact that this thread starts

OP: Why am I wet?
Me: Because it's raining.
Other person: because the government (op thumbs up)

indicate to you that it's either a wind up, or something not worth spending your time on. :D
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Yeah, to be fair you're right, I've had enough now anyway (y)

This is absolute crackpot talk, I just can't get my head around why people just dig and dig and dig, when the answer is extremely simple. Surely most people know a doctor or a nurse they can chat to, that they trust?

I hope it's a wind up, but I don't think anyone can be that much of a d*ck. There will always be gullible people that think it's gospel, dodge a vaccine and then end up dead, not exactly worth the "wind up" to me.
 
Funky_Chicken said:
Have a look at this 👀 if it works Dan Stevens (@DanStevens1103) Tweeted: @NHSuk Can he explain these please? https://t.co/xh6A26ycB2
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What's the issue/ point? Or is this one of those things where you post a low number without any context? Or you just don't understand the numbers?

1st Feb 20 to 30 Nov 20, they had a peak cases in hospital average of about 33, an average only 5 of those were on ventilation, obviously for those cases, some will have been in there weeks, seeing as they were only admitting 2 cases per day or so, at the peak.

In that time period they only had 70 covid deaths (in that whole trust), so 94% would have had other health issues, which is about the expected level.

Deaths by trust in here:

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If you don't understand it or can't put it into context, then how are you meant to be able to question it? Like that guy, he doesn't even know what he's questioning or have any idea why that number is what is expected. An answer to him is worthless, as he just won't get it. The info is easily available to explain it, you just need the capability to find it, and then understand it.
 
Andy_W said:
What's the issue/ point? Or is this one of those things where you post a low number without any context? Or you just don't understand the numbers?

1st Feb 20 to 30 Nov 20, they had a peak cases in hospital average of about 33, an average only 5 of those were on ventilation, obviously for those cases, some will have been in there weeks, seeing as they were only admitting 2 cases per day or so, at the peak.

In that time period they only had 70 covid deaths (in that whole trust), so 94% would have had other health issues, which is about the expected level.

Deaths by trust in here:

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If you don't understand it or can't put it into context, then how are you meant to be able to question it? Like that guy, he doesn't even know what he's questioning or have any idea why that number is what is expected. An answer to him is worthless, as he just won't get it. The info is easily available to explain it, you just need the capability to find it, and then understand it.
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I think it’s you who doesn’t get it sadly




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TheYorkshireTerrier said:
That documentary on Channel 4 last night about antivaxxers is worth a watch if anyone fancies doing more research
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Didn't see it, might watch it, suspect it mentions covid vaccines in passing and concentrates on nutjobs that are against all vaccines and attempts to correlate the two.

Quote I saw somewhere.... "calling me an anti-vaxxer" because I don't want the covid vaccine is like calling me anti-dairy because I don't like cheese"
 
Andy_W said:
I know you don't get it, which is evident as you have zero argument/reasoning for anything you post, and can't counter anything.
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Whereas your argument seems to boil down to "go ask a doctor"

This guy is a doctor and a pro-vaccine doctor at that but at least he is open-minded....
 
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